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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Nov 3, 2011 #261 of 3078
    Stuart Sweet

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    wow, DIRECTV10 sure has had its share of problems.
     
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    RAD

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    Mike said he wanted to mention it on the call since it would be noted in the 10-Q that would be coming out in a few days. Maybe that will contain more information? I wonder if this was the (or one of) the reason that when D12 went up they moved D10 to another slot to work on a fix for a problem?
     
  3. Nov 3, 2011 #263 of 3078
    hdtvfan0001

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    For sure.

    It might also almost explain why the rush to add more HD channels has been curtailed a bit...
     
  4. Nov 3, 2011 #264 of 3078
    Groundhog45

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    Who built that satellite?
     
  5. Nov 3, 2011 #265 of 3078
    RAD

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    IIRC it was Boeing.
     
  6. Nov 3, 2011 #266 of 3078
    longrider

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    All the HD satellites are built on the Boeing 702HP bus - d10, d11, d12, spaceway 1 and spaceway 2
     
  7. Nov 3, 2011 #267 of 3078
    dpeters11

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    I thought about that as well, but that issue was with transponders on the spot beams wasn't it?
     
  8. Nov 3, 2011 #268 of 3078
    YakeVlad

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    Yeah, it had to do with some transponders that weren't functioning. Whatever the issue was with them they came up with a fix that solved the problem. A shame to hear there's a new issue and with a critical system like primary propulsion. I wonder how long they can continue to operate it on the backup system.
     
  9. Nov 3, 2011 #269 of 3078
    Stuart Sweet

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    They need to send an HSP up to look at that thing. I mean yeah, it would be a really tall ladder but still.
     
  10. Nov 3, 2011 #270 of 3078
    RAD

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    White did say they have a backup plan in case D10 did fail, any guesses what it could be?
     
  11. Nov 3, 2011 #271 of 3078
    RobertE

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    Either lease space on a ka band bird floating around somewhere that could be moved to D10 spot. Or, fill D11, D12, SW1 & SW2 to capacity for the short term. My guess would be on the later.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2011 #272 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    I'm not sure there is one handy with the right transponder arrangement and frequencies, and even if so, the FCC would have to give permission.

    That would be my guess as well.
     
  13. Nov 3, 2011 #273 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Possibly use the "push" slots and also change the plans for growth to instead backfill D10. Would be a real shame, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
     
  14. Nov 3, 2011 #274 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    But D14 is being built on an SS/L (Space Systems/Loral) satellite bus. Always a good idea to spread your risk and help keep competition alive in the satellite industry.
     
  15. Nov 3, 2011 #275 of 3078
    Sixto

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    With the D10 previous issues, and there's also always been rumored Spaceway issues, may have affected the SS/L award.
     
  16. Nov 3, 2011 #276 of 3078
    dpeters11

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    Or did they just one in with the cheapest bid?

    Do these things come with solar array tip to solar array tip warranties?
     
  17. Nov 3, 2011 #277 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    When you're talking about something that's around 150 - 300 million in end-to-end costs (satellite, launch, insurance, engineering support, etc), there's not THAT much difference in price. Bids are won and lost based on things beside pure price.

    That depends on the details of the purchase contract; I would expect that the last progress payments on the contract are probably paid upon completion of all on-orbit checkout and testing.
     
  18. Nov 3, 2011 #278 of 3078
    JoeTheDragon

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    well they can also start the move to all MPEG 4 quicker then planed.

    kill off SD vers of channels that are in HD and move the SD only channels to MPEG 4.

    Maybe if things get real bad move the RSN HD back to the spot beams.
     
  19. Nov 3, 2011 #279 of 3078
    longrider

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    I probably should have said all the existing HD sats... ;) I was aware that D14 was awarded to SS/L and I have wondered if that was at least partially due to the issues being experienced. However to be fair the Spaceways were engineered by Hughes for internet and then signed over to DirecTV and changed to TV usage. The dynamic beam shaping was intended for the ability to move bandwidth where needed on an as needed basis which doesnt really carry over to TV transmissions very well.
     
  20. Nov 3, 2011 #280 of 3078
    sigma1914

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    Yeah because no one has SD stuff anymore. :rolleyes:
     

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