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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Jul 28, 2011 #81 of 3078
    spear61

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    "For example, Canada has licensed one 17/24 GHz BSS operator at 111.1° W.L. and another at 113° W.L."

    I wonder about this statement since Industry Canada shows no operating or authorized but unconstructed BSS satellites at those slots.

    Authorized and Approved Canadian Satellites
     
  2. Jul 28, 2011 #82 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    So let me get this straight;

    DIRECTV initially had three satellites to be constructed by SS/L, which I assume were DIRECTV14/RB-1 (99W), RB-2 (103W), and RB-4 (110W) (since RB-3 at 107W) was previously surrendered).

    Therefore now with RB-4 being surrendered, that currently leaves only DIRECTV14/RB-1 and RB-2 to be made by SS/L?
     
  3. Jul 28, 2011 #83 of 3078
    Tom Robertson

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    The only question I have is are D14 and RB-1 the same satellite or two satellites? Otherwise I think you are spot on.

    Cheers,
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  4. Jul 28, 2011 #84 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    The original SS/L press release for DIRECTV-14 linked to on page one of this thread mentions more than once of an "RDBS" payload in addition to the Ka-band one.

    So I think they must be the same, though calling it simply "RB-1" in the FCC correspondence without ever mentioning it as actually a Ka/RB-1 band hybrid is confusing.
     
  5. Jul 28, 2011 #85 of 3078
    spear61

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    If D14 is BSS 17Ghz/KA it should be in this report

    2011 BSS 17 Ghz/KA Report
     
  6. Jul 28, 2011 #86 of 3078
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    Yes it is confusing, somewhat by necessity. One spacecraft with separate FCC licensing for the Ka and BSS portions of the payload.
     
  7. Jul 28, 2011 #87 of 3078
    Tom Robertson

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    !rolling and I was the one who put the full press release into RAD's post last year. :)

    I'm pretty sure you are correct, thanks for reminding me. :)

    Cheers,
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  8. Jul 29, 2011 #88 of 3078
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    Well I guess it should show in that annual report, but strangely it doesn't. Only the call letters S2711 for the RB-1 payload authorized at 99.175°.

    So far there is no known (to us at least) listing for the Ka band payload aboard the future DIRECTV 14.

    Again another nice find on that document though ...
     
  9. Jul 29, 2011 #89 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Yes, and with the info in the additional document linked by spear61 is seems DIRECTV now has three BSS slots remaining.

    99.175° for D14/RB-1, 102.765° apparently for the present RB-2A spot beam payload aboard D12 which is preliminary for RB-2 at 102.825° with full national coverage.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2011 #90 of 3078
    spear61

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    There were a bunch of KA band filings for 97W from three companies on the day the server crashed - Directv, Hughes, and Inmarsat Hawaii.

    Most of them were filed within seconds or a minute of each other.
    Going to be interesting to see how it shakes out. Sometimes, one gets it all and other times, they each get a percentage of the slot. Not sure how KA awards work.

    I recall Echostar abandoning a KA slot a year or so ago. Can't remember where it was but this might be it.

    Example filing - Directv
     
  11. Aug 11, 2011 #91 of 3078
    cypherx

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    Is this to be run on existing Ka compatible equipment, or is this for new (future) satellite launches?

    That would be a surprise increase in bandwidth if there was an existing bird out there that did Ku and Ka, but the Ka was just disabled all this time until a proper license could be granted.
     
  12. Aug 11, 2011 #92 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Thanks for the heads up. I used to check daily but hadn't checked in a while. Gotta get my checker running again on 64bit.
     
  13. Aug 11, 2011 #93 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    This is for the 97W slot. Directv holds a BSS license for that slot - it would be additional bandwidth but would require (at the least) a new LNB, since 97W is not part of the "core" 99-101-103 Directv arc of orbital slots.
     
  14. Aug 11, 2011 #94 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Davenlr

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    Is that 200 more, or the 200 they already have? Would they just move the two spaceways over there, and use that slot for as the application said, niche, foreign language, etc? Or are they talking about a new satellite they havent launched yet, which would be years down the pipe?
     
  16. Aug 11, 2011 #96 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    It's interesting that, according to that document, the only other ITU applications for the slot are from the UK, Papua New Guinea and Malaysia. I mean, WTF seriously? Those countries aren't anywhere close to 97W longitude.

    Have you had the time to pull and research the document mentioned in Footnote 1 to see how/why this Ka slot came open? I'm curious is Directv will use any of its currently-licensed BSS slots as bargaining fodder to smooth this application. It seems to me that additional Ka bandwidth would better fit Directv's existing systems and plans than BSS systems, but I could be wrong.

    EDITED TO ADD: Okay, the footnote refers to Echostar's surrendered license for that location.
     
  17. Aug 11, 2011 #97 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Anybody got the link for the accompanying Schedule S for this LOA request?
     
  18. Aug 11, 2011 #98 of 3078
    Sixto

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    240 more, assuming 5 per, which may be low considering newer technologies and the switch to SS/L for the sats.
     
  19. Aug 11, 2011 #99 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Yep, Echostar, but I thought that was long ago. Haven't had time to dig much yet, been away. Man, I need to fix my FCC checker (broke when I switched to 64bit), also some recent changes to RB-1 and RB-2 for Puerto Rico and location.
     
  20. Aug 11, 2011 #100 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Yep, it's out there. Will attach here.
     

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