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DIRECTV Still Lying About HDTV according to TVPredictions.com

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Barcthespark, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. Nov 2, 2009 #41 of 146
    oldfantom

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    I am going to agree here. I would also point out that the problem with HD is that we have no hard and fast rules. Is 720p, 1080i or 1080p "HD"? If the answer is yes, all three are HD, why do we care that a TV maxes at 720p? The answer is that the definition of HD has changed and evolves. So maybe anything better than 480i is HD. Thankfully, we don't sit around and argue about HD-Lite anymore.

    None of that has much to do with the idea in this thread. Except that now we can't agree about what constitutes an HD channel. If a channel shows HD movies all day, seven days a week, but happens to be PPV, is it an HD channel? Well what about a HD channel that shows maybe an hour or two of HD programming and 22-23 hours of stretchy vision SD up-converts. Is that an HD channel? How do you count a RSN that shows a small percentage of unique HD content?

    The problem with advertising claims in HD is that we are in the wild west. Everyone can say what they want because they make their own rules. Like Dish and their, "why pay for direct ticket when you get the top five games each week" claim. I can see the technical claim, unless they are running it in Cleveland or St Louis. Those games are not in the top five games every week.

    Long post summed up, "buyer beware". Know what you want to see and purchase based upon your desires. Sit back and wait. We will all have the same stuff "soon".
     
  2. Nov 2, 2009 #42 of 146
    TBlazer07

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    I really don't understand why people care so much about this entire topic (which gets reincarnated almost every week in one form or another). What does it matter if (fill in the name) advertises they have 100 or 300 HD channels since there will only be 10 or 20 or 30 you're going to actively watch. If XYZ had 500 and 495 were of no interest would the provider be better because they have 500?

    Is this any different then political advertising .... or ANY advertising for that matter? How often does any advertising actually tell the truth? Even PSA's exaggerate or lie.

    Liars liars pants on fires. Who cares (unless you're gullible enough to think "because they say it on TV it's the truth") ??
     
  3. Nov 2, 2009 #43 of 146
    jeffshoaf

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    That's right - it's only true if you can find it on the internet! :D
     
  4. Nov 2, 2009 #44 of 146
    TBoneit

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    Bottom line is, how many national HD channels are left that are not on satellite now?

    Imagine D* has capacity to add 200 more HD channels than any other provider. Remember I did say Imagine. How many HD channels would launch for only one provider?
     
  5. Nov 2, 2009 #45 of 146
    TBoneit

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    Unless some of the 10 or 20 or 30 you're going to want to actively watch aren't available.
     
  6. Nov 2, 2009 #46 of 146
    brucegrr

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    I am quite happy with Directv and I have always said so. That does not mean, however, that I give them a free pass on their advertising. Lying? Maybe, maybe not. Distortion? Manipulation? Apples and oranges? Absolutely.

    Of course this is the norm for advertising.

    For me..........I count the number of actual, full time HD channels offered. I don't listen to the ads. I count what I can see. On that basis Dish and many cable companies have caught up with Directv.

    Where I live, rural NW Ohio, we have three choices. Directv, Dish, or Time Warner (formerly Adelphia) Time Warner's HD channels are far and few between. The only choice for me is Dish or DirecTv. Both seem to be on par with the other. It is SPORTS that tilts the table towards Directv for me.

    Has anyone noticed that the discussion is about Swani the person and not about what Swani has written? How about a hard look at what Dish, Directv, cable companies offer? A side by side comparison. No talk about the future which can blow up in space.........but what is actually offered now, today?

    Once again....overall Directv wins the battle for my entertainment dollars. BUT they are no longer the overwhelming favorite.

    Bruce
     
  7. Nov 2, 2009 #47 of 146
    harsh

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    The race was and remains far from won. 18 months of arguable leadership doesn't really constitute a dynasty; especially given the paucity of new CONUS HD channels in the last 12 months.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2009 #48 of 146
    je4755

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    If contracts in fact have been consummated. As noted above by Greg Bimson (and many other contributors in the past) ". . . when some of those offerings wanted are wholly-owned by cable companies (Travel, Versus, etc.) then one can see the lines in the sand . . ." I hope DirecTV soon resolves its differences with Comcast and Cox – should Travel Channel HD’s absence flow from an inability to conclude a carriage agreement rather than D11 capacity limitations – but we'll see.
     
  9. Nov 2, 2009 #49 of 146
    sigma1914

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    Try quoting his whole post. He said, "In the meantime the other providers have caught up..."
     
  10. Nov 2, 2009 #50 of 146
    TBlazer07

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    Exactly! It still wouldn't matter if they had 10, 100 or 1000 if the ones you want isn't there. But this thread is about ADVERTISING. Who cares if they are lying or hyperbolizing? SURPRISE EVERYONE ..... ads always play with the truth.

     
  11. Nov 2, 2009 #51 of 146
    Knowledge

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    I miscounted on my list :(
     
  12. Nov 2, 2009 #52 of 146
    Doug Brott

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  13. Nov 2, 2009 #53 of 146
    brucegrr

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    According to this Directv page I count 94. (Doug's link to Sixto's post confirms the 94 count)

    https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/difference

    This does not include PPV, HD locals, etc.

    So...........please let me know how you come up with 165 or 188?

    Here is the link for Dish's HD.

    http://www.dishnetwork.com/turbohd/default.aspx

    Bruce

     
  14. Nov 2, 2009 #54 of 146
    Tom Robertson

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    How one counts is perhaps the most important part.

    One Sundays, 15 is all I need--except during bye weeks. :) (And only DIRECTV has those 15...) :)
     
  15. Nov 2, 2009 #55 of 146
    brucegrr

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    Tom,

    :)

    Quite correct. As I have said before...........when it comes to Sports there is only ONE service provider.........Directv.

    I enjoyed the Vikings/Packers game Sunday. Great game. Personally I am a Bengals fan :) I have HOPE this year (just like every other year since 1981) Maybe this year....
     
  16. Nov 3, 2009 #56 of 146
    harsh

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    The quote stands by itself. The fact that the rest of the post contradicts the part I quoted doesn't make it any less false.
     
  17. Nov 3, 2009 #57 of 146
    paulman182

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  18. Nov 3, 2009 #58 of 146
    cmoss5

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    For those not in the know, Swanni is a Directv subscriber as he said so
    a few months ago in one of his articles praising DIRECTV. However, he
    is just like the rest of us wanting Directv to hurry up and add more HD
    channel now, not next year when the new satellite is up and going!!
     
  19. Nov 3, 2009 #59 of 146
    Doug Brott

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    Yes it does .. so when you don't include the other relevant portion you've totally changed the context of what was being said. What's the point? :shrug:
     
  20. Nov 3, 2009 #60 of 146
    gregjones

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    He is also a writer that often uses thread posts from here as the basis for his stories. He indulges in yellow journalism, often embellishing or slanting the facts for a better headline.
     

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