I had to have Directv service my house this week.. I have a dvd recorder with a built in tuner.. in fact I have two of them.. the guy who had installed my system put two separate coax wires to my rooms.. one direct from my dish and one from my crappy antenna.. so when my dvd player went out this week and I wanted to service it ,my directv went out in my living room.. so out comes the service guy.. in the mean time I had to re hook up the dvd player to the coax from the antenna.. so he comes in.. and I unhook,, and the directv goes out in the living room.. just like it did the other day.. and HE GOES.. HEY.. your Signal just went out.. duh.. that's what I called about.. so he say..geees.. I don't know how to fix that.. so I have an old digital converter box.. and I say.. I guess that I can hook this up instead of the dvd with the built in tuner.. NAH.. he says.. that won't fi.....xx.x........ HEY your signal is back.. what did you do..? I tell him that I hooked up the digital box.. No ..that cant be it.. but after I unhooked it again.. guess who was right.. Gees.. I can't fix that.. it would take a long time.. so.. I say leave it.. but then I called Directv for some help tonight ... and the tech support girl. One.. didn't know what I was asking about.. and TWO.. didn't even OWN A TV.. much less DIRECTV.. and after I asked for a supervisor.. she put me on hold for 15 minutes.. and then transferred me to South Carolina, instead of talking to a supervisor in New Mexico.. and then the transfer wasn't even to tech support.. UGGGGHHHHHHH..