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DIRECTV to Introduce Additional TiVo Features

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. Jul 31, 2007 #21 of 275
    jaywdetroit

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    Am I the only one here that is wondering if this means a new HD TiVo unit may be in the works?
     
  2. Jul 31, 2007 #22 of 275
    MikeW

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    Does this mean hacked Tivos will need to lose MRV and HME to gain these features? I can use TivoWeb now to "undelete" so all I'd really miss is remote scheduling. Wouldn't be a good trade-off.

    It would make sense on D*'s part to add MRV and HME to the standard build. As they work towards IP based communications, this would encourage users to add networking to their Tivos. They could use the internet for PPV authorizations and card balance checking, eliminate the phone calls to save money on the call-ins. It would also discourage the hacker community because the box would already do what the end-users want it to do.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2007 #23 of 275
    litzdog911

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    Yes, the DSR7000 DirecTivos are considered "Series 2" platforms.
     
  4. Jul 31, 2007 #24 of 275
    litzdog911

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    Don't hold your breath. Although Tivo did just announce a cheaper standalone HD Tivo for use with Cable TV and CableCards.
     
  5. Jul 31, 2007 #25 of 275
    SteveHas

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    Booya!
    Sweet!
    Thanks litzdog911
    :hurah:
     
  6. Jul 31, 2007 #26 of 275
    jaywdetroit

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    I'm certainly not going to hold my breath, but I can't help but wonder...
     
  7. Jul 31, 2007 #27 of 275
    Mixer

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    Cool some very awesome features for my SD T* based box. I am exicted about this.

    I hope that internet sceduling can be done through phone line. Is it possible that it could be sent VIA sat like software updates are?

    All in all though I am very psyched. Great job to T* and D* for working together to keep us taken care of.
     
  8. Jul 31, 2007 #28 of 275
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    That is a good news. This time frame is a lot closer that I hoped.

    What about "recently deleted folder"? Would this be something HR20 development team is considering?
     
  9. Jul 31, 2007 #29 of 275
    SoCool

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    South West...
    I guess I better get that R10 out of the closet and shine it up!:)
     
  10. Jul 31, 2007 #30 of 275
    Earl Bonovich

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    Big difference between spending the millions to research and develop a new unit...

    And adding existing code to software already designed for it... and pushing it out to update some 4,000,000 SD-DirecTivos..

    More bang for the $$ with the update to the SD-DTivos
     
  11. Jul 31, 2007 #31 of 275
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    This is good news. I hope this means that in the future, Directv will produce new Directivo boxes. Fixing up the old ones this way sure means that Directv understands the importance of Tivo to many of its customers.

    In any event, for those interested, Circuit City is selling Samsung Directivos NIB for $78 on their website right now.
     
  12. Jul 31, 2007 #32 of 275
    jaywdetroit

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    You know I like to speculate...

    If you were TiVo, and you wanted to make sure you kept your foot in the door with D*, and you were writing all this new code for your S3 and your HD Tivo, wouldn't you make sure it would port to a D* box without too much hassle?

    I mean - most of the hardcore R&D is done by now, isn't it?
     
  13. Jul 31, 2007 #33 of 275
    anubys

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    This is good news...to me, it means the door is not completely shut on having a mpeg4 HD-Tivo...

    it's still 99.9% shut...but there's still hope!
     
  14. Jul 31, 2007 #34 of 275
    Mike D-CO5

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    Since John Malone controls LIberty cable and is now buying Directv , he just might let Tivo come back into the fold . Doesn't Liberty cable already have a deal with Tivo for their cable boxes? He might just think it is easier to use tivo then fix all the bugs in the news corp receivers.
     
  15. Jul 31, 2007 #35 of 275
    Earl Bonovich

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    But not having detailed specifications on how to do that...
    You are flying blind with the chipsets...

    You can do it all in theory... but to actually implement it...
    And have it actually work...

    Sure they could realy disconnected the TiVo Series 3 software from the hardware level... made a distinct hardware abstract layer...
    But did they do it?

    Even if the hardcore R&D is done... DirecTV will still dictate the criteria and the feature set... and what if that R&D that was done... doesn't jive with any of the criteria...

    Now that I think about it a tad more....
    Then the COX version shoudl be right around the corner then... as all the heavily R&D would be done by now, to allow the T3 to work on any system.
     
  16. Jul 31, 2007 #36 of 275
    Earl Bonovich

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    Liberty Cable?

    I thought Malone got rid of his shares of his COMCAST Cable-Co's (for the most part).

    And he isn't "buying" DirecTV... he is swapping stock, to become the largest single share holder (35ish%)...

    R15 is a "news corp" system...
    HR20 is a DirecTV system...
     
  17. Jul 31, 2007 #37 of 275
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    the fact that r15 and hr20 are 2 unique systems from same company, shows they need to have 1 system control making a system
     
  18. Jul 31, 2007 #38 of 275
    Earl Bonovich

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    Huh?
     
  19. Jul 31, 2007 #39 of 275
    Chuck584

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    And neither work as well as TiVo.

    It would be better to spend the $$$ to have a TiVo DirecTV HD box than to continue throwing good money after bad on the R15 and HR20.

    According to the TiVo May 30th press release, there are 2,615,000 D* TiVo subscriptions out of a total 4,342,000 TiVo subscriptions. TiVo's "churn" rate was reported as 1.1%.

    I left Comcast for DirecTV solely for DirecTV dual tuner TiVos. If Comcast's customer service wouldn't have been as rude and clueless, I'd still be a Comcast customer with two Series Two TiVos.

    I spoke to Comcast's HQ today (Comcast's Pittsburgh customer service center is an oxymoron). My understanding is they will slowly roll out their TiVo because of the "Wii factor" - a huge demand and short supply. I strongly suspect they will woo TiVo customers on other platforms with the "We have TiVo HD with True Video On Demand. What do you have to settle for now to get HD?"

    If D* cuts a deal for a TiVo HD box, you know D* will be crushed with HR20 returns. For those who have only known the R15 or HR20, they may be quite happy. But for those who have been Blessed by TiVo, the R15 and HR20 are buggy if adequate substitutes for the "Real Deal DVR".

    I've yet to meet one person who has used TiVo and either the R15 or HR20 and doesn't prefer the TiVo. I do know my neighbor gave up D* because her D* TiVo died and after 5 months struggling with the R15 she just couldn't take the drama. Her VIP622 is better than my HR20 and she doesn't let me forget it. :(
     
  20. Jul 31, 2007 #40 of 275
    Earl Bonovich

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    Well... that is your opinion that they don't work as well as TiVo...

    So spend the $$$ on a platform, that is still pretty much controlled by that external vendor... that is throwing good money? instead of bad?

    So.... TiVo has a low churn rate, what is the point?
    Out of the bullk of the subscriptions for TiVo on DirecTV, they are for SD equipment..

    What over whelming feature on the R15, would make you give up the SD for it? There isn't one... there is no reason to this day to give up the SD DTiVo for an R15...

    As for why you came on to DirecTV... that is your choice as a consumer.

    And Comcast just willing explained to you their rollout strategy for a Box yet to reach the hands of anyone outside of a BETA program? The "Wii" factor. If I understand correctly... isn't the COMCAST version supposed to download to existing hardware? So what is the Wii factor? Can't the system download software or is there some limitation to that?

    As for "true" Video On Demand... define that... what is "true" Video on Demand...

    Really... crushed with returns? What overwhelming feature would be on that TiVo unit, that all the people with a functional unit... will caused them to return it? As pointed out... people HATE change.
     

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