I like the HR20 Better. The only thing Tivo does for me that the HR20 doesn't is whislist. Other than that my HR20's are far better in speed and are being launched with more new abilites all the time (than Tivo has), and from what I'm seeing, will always have more features too. The fact that Tivo has finally decided after 5 years to role out a software update that has been on stand alone units for years is, in my opinion, a sign of panic on there part of loosing all their customers to HR20's in short order, because when VOD and MPEG4 HD comes out, they aren't going to be able to access it. They will be hurting on the SD and the HD units real fast, as people start swaping them for more featured packed units. And IMHO the only way I see tivo coming out with a new Directv box is if they charge an additional fee for its usage over Directv's, and it would have to have at least 3 major advantages, or people wouldn't go for it. I just wish ReplayTV would partner with directv. Now that would be the box to have. Far superior to anything else out there today. They've pioneered all the best features and have the easiest GUI. If only years ago they had someone in charge of marketing and sales that new how to take over the market.