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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. loudo

    loudo Well-Known Member

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    Mark, one problem is the cost of programing each receiver or account, versus assigning a preset group of programs to an account. I know when I had C-Band, you could do it, but many times a la carte programing would cost you more than just selecting a package that contained the programing you want.
     
  2. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Not surprising given that there are 1300+ times that many who have lost something from their viewing opportunities.
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    You falsely assume everyone watches those channels, which many folks know is NOT the case. There is plenty of testimony to that fact in this thread already.

    Still - losing channels is not a good thing...but neither is content provider greed.
     
  4. fleckrj

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    I am not sure how much lightening adds to the rainfade problem, but the downpour at your location has little to do with the total water content in the path between the satellite and your dish. I have been through several tropical storms and a few hurricaines with no loss of signal. There was plenty of lightening and rain at the rate of about 10 inches per hour directly overhead, but the bulk of the storm and clouds were to the east or southeast.

    I do get loss of signal when a normal thunderstorm cell is approaching from the southwest, though, because the signal has to go through the entire storm. Usually, by the time it is actually raining at my location, the signal has returned, because the bulk of the storm is directly overhead instead of being to southwest.

    It is both the direction and severity of the storm that matter. What is happening at your location is only a small part of the entire path from the satellite to your dish.
     
  5. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    There are a few (five today) hour-long "sessions" a day but nowhere near a full schedule of supergroups and classic concerts. Audience's music programming is a good supplement to what Palladia offers, not a replacement. You have to wade through the 10 hours of Dan Patrick to get to it.
     
  6. tvropro

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    The Shaw model would be cool on Direct except Shaw makes you take a basic pack first. I think it would be better for the consumer to do it like on C band with you just pick a small pack without being forced to take a basic pack to qualify.

    It will be very hard for the cable/mini dish cartel to accept this since they look at the bottom line in dollars and cents. They will always choose the option that make them the most profit unless laws are put in place to make them do otherwise.
     
  7. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    I clearly said "opportunities". I'm pretty sure much more than 1 in 1300 will want to watch something on the Viacom networks today and will be denied.
     
  8. harsh

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    Methinks you doth romanticize C-band too much. C-band pretty much requires a basic pack now too. You probably do have greater latitude in deciding the package's composition but it comes at a substantial cost in equipment and utility in a modern multi-TV setting.
     
  9. susanandmark

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    Anyone who thinks that the 100 or so users who have posted in this, or any other, thread on this forum (and that's just a guess, since I didn't count, but even if it's 1,000 my point is the same) make up an accurate representative sample of DirecTV's quoted 20,000,000 customers is REALLY making false assumptions. And I'm talking about using that as a validation for any opinion, including my own.

    As for change.org or any other online petition ... You can get 10,000 signatures for or against just about anything on the Internet, and most people know that, making the value of such campaigns nebulous, at best. For instance, here's one that almost 11,000 people signed asking God to stop doing bad things (http://www.petitiononline.com/stopgod/petition.html). Good luck with, that! (Besides, everyone knows that God only allows bad things to happen when he's distracted helping his favorite professional athletes win games.)

    Here's a petition with 20,000+ signatures to remove the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/edit-pledge-allegiance-remove-phrase-under-god/v5J2fC6z) and one that wants someone fired for omitting those words on national TV (http://mrcaction.org/action/555). Yep, the people have spoken all right, and their will is as clear as mud.
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    If you quote a number like that...its deceptive unless you mean actual viewers. It's like saying there are millions of shows to watch each year (including repeats, multiple providers, Video on demand, online, etc.). So what.

    That reference clearly means basically nothing...based on your amended statement in the context of this discussion.

    Plus..why does any Dish customer care about any content on DirecTV anyway? - posting on this topic here is disingenuous. It would seem you Dish customers have their hands full dealing with the AMC channels being off the air, not to mention the pattern of losing channels being more common on Dish.
     
  11. SPACEMAKER

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    I love it when people post their opinions as fact.
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Amen.
     
  13. mnassour

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    Interesting AP article this morning via TVNewsCheck...with one really scary point, and one that make sense.

    http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/...aign=Gannett+2Q+Television+Revenue+Climbs+11%

    It's getting to the point where if you want everything, all the time, you're going to have to have two services.

    Feh.

    IIRC, Doesn't Dish, at least, still offer a higher-priced month to month option with no contract?
     
  14. tonyd79

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    Yeah cause Palladia doesn't repeat concerts.
     
  15. snowcat

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    The Republican and Democrat national conventions are Aug 27-30 and the week of September 3 respectively. Those are huge for the Daily Show.

    But those are still about 6 weeks away. The summer just isn't a time for new shows.

    The only real weakness I see for DirecTv is getting new subscribers to sign up. I would think most people would avoid switching to a provider with such a big programming dispute. They are lucky that Dish has their own dispute to deal with.
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    Considering it's the SAME input, yes.
     
  17. tvropro

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    C band is not what it once was although it does have some good idea's that seem to work with programming bundling and choice. In fact the pick 10 pack is the most popular pack on C band.

    We are coming to a point that possibly all satellite DTH companies may end up being extinct if the newest methods of fiber and the like take precedence. It's very possible that Direct and Dish may be extinct in the future with DTH satellite distribution if the wired and wireless IPTV type models take control.
     
  18. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Highly doubt that.

    The costs of expanding fiber have been so severe that Fios had to end their expansion into other states.
     
  19. patmurphey

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    I don't understand all the angst and blame against Viacom over the 30% request. Isn't DirecTV charging a lot more than 30% more than they did 7 years ago?
     
  20. Richard

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    How soon some people forget the original intent of DBS. You really think fiber will be run to every rural area in the country?
     

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