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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. renbutler

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    But "the wealthy" and "greed" are the latest buzzwords today. That perspective taints many people's entire world view. They are always so critical of the wealthy's obsession with money, and strangely enough they do it with their own obsession with how much money people have and what they should do with it.
     
  2. fleckrj

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    For people who live in urban areas and only want one (or maybe two) programs at a time, perhaps, but high speed internet, 3G, and 4G are not going to be able to keep up with the demand of multiple HD streams or penetrate areas with low housing densities. Satellite delivery will be around for a long time.
     
  3. fleckrj

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    The difference is that DirecTV is giving $5/month only for three months and only for the people who bother to call and ask for it. Viacom wants $3/month for all 20,000,000 DirecTV customers for 5 years.

    I know $3 x 60 is a lot more than $5 x 3, and I suspect that very few customers actually call to ask for the discount.
     
  4. mitchflorida

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    You are acting like you know what you are talking about, and you don't. When Viacom doesn't deliver the amount of households promised, they have to use advertising slots for "make goods", to make up for the lower viewership. Instead of using the slots for new money, they are using them to compensate the old advertsiers.
     
  5. F1 Fan

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    True, but the majority of handsets each come with their own 3/4G access (even though you can tether - most people do not bother).

    And I know for a fact that Verizon Wireless had a long term plan when they rolled out 4g (hence they put a fiber backhaul where AT&T put copper backhaul from the towers - AT&T are running bonded T1's in our area for their 4G LTE). They got caught on the hop when people dropped land lines in favor of cell phones - they missed a lot of opportunity and marketing there. So this time around they have planned their 4G to be in speeds of 200M+ by the end of 2015 (it could be 2016 my memory is not so good). They are targeting DSL and cable internet users.

    Remember a decent HD (current HD) stream needs about 3M to view. I get close to 30M on my Verizon 4G phones and tablets, so I could easily stream enough to view all on my household.

    No one should predict what can't be done in 3 to 5 years (ask Facebook, Apple etc.), because you will be very disappointed. And I am sure Directv is monitoring all this internet speeds and distribution carefully.
     
  6. susanandmark

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    I think this is good, because it's a plus for consumers, but I'm boggled how anyone feels this is a win for DirecTV, or in fact why they slammed Viacom for doing so in the first place.

    DirecTV crowing (e.g. here: http://twitter.com/DIRECTV/status/225265272599216129, here: http://twitter.com/DIRECTV/status/225098050090188800, directvpromise.com, etc.) about the online return and saying we'll watch you tomorrow on Hulu is silly. Doubly so since they have publicly castigated Viacom for even offering their programs online to begin with, saying it "devalues" their product.

    So if Viacom posts the content online, they're cheating DirecTV, and if they remove it they're jerks who should be slammed?

    Dumb all around. I'm not fan of Viacom, but I don't pay Viacom (directly). I pay DirecTV, which is why main beef is with them.

    If these stupid channel blackouts become the normal negotiating tactic for DirecTV, and other providers, as predicted by some, my prediction is that more and more customers will say, 'Why bother?,' save their money and find their entertainment elsewhere.

    Seriously I've called the tactics childish before, but it honestly feels like that's insulting to most children, who handle themselves better, and with more concern for those their actions effect, than these mega-corps.
     
  7. mitchflorida

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    Too bad you're not the chief negotiator for DirecTV. You could probably solve the problem in less than five minutes.
     
  8. Tubaman-Z

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    I do agree that this would seem to be a short-sighted strategy in that it starts nudging D*'s customers towards non-D* sources. I had my 1st direct experience of a Roku when visiting friends last weekend - and I was impressed.
     
  9. Ira Lacher

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    "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to." -- Dorothy Parker

    "The only thing I like about rich people is their money." -- Nancy Astor
     
  10. maartena

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    Offtopic: I remember that test card in your icon from when I still lived in Europe. The girl in it is in her 50s today.... :D

    That brings back memories.
     
  11. gio12

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    I am going to call BULL on this one. Post pictures of a speediest. because I am SURE Verizon would want you on every commercial for them.

    Most speed tests show DL for Verizon being in the 8-17mps range overall.
    Oh, and AT&T has faster download speeds on their 3.5 & 4G LTE. Verizon faster up though.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. zimm7778

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    And because of that if i were Directv I'd drag my feet and offer them less than the current deal that just expired. They'd either answer for it to advertisers or take the deal and run. Let's see them squirm and reap what they sowed with their childish antics. Their ads alone would be enough to make me do it. Btw, anyone know when this 6 months ends?
     
  13. zimm7778

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    Yes, it's called jealousy.
     
  14. maartena

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    Yeah, they couldn't keep screwing everyone else that did not have DirecTV for much longer. It was a scare tactic, designed to force DirecTV into submission. Take away the shows altogether, and see if they bit.

    DirecTV did not bite. So, the alternatives are back online, NO ONE has to miss out on at least the most popular shows, although streaming them through the web is an annoyance if you have a nice big, not-internet connected TV.

    Nevertheless, Viacom's strategy failed.

    It looks like DirecTV is winning the "social media war", or at least from what I can tell from some of the analysts that look at twitter/facebook/youtube activity. More users seem to support DirecTV's point of view.

    I think what is mostly different than other disputes, is how DIRTY Viacom has been playing this game. Normally, there will be some mudslinging back and forth between the disputed companies (see Tribune for example), but Viacom has taken "mudslinging" to a whole new level. Commercials that pray on little kids that hear "DirecTV is taking away your Spongebob", full-page ads in news papers, and removing all online video for everyone. This game has never been played this dirty before.

    And it doesn't look like the sleezy strategies are paying off for Viacom.
     
  15. tonyd79

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    Funny that both DirecTV and Viacom disagree with your take on the strategy.
     
  16. zimm7778

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    Why would Directv care? All that did was piss off everyone with every other provider. If you ask me it was a hail mary shot out of desperation because deep down I think they knew the outcry in their favor wasn't going to be severe enough to make Directv flinch. So, they played the last card they had and cut off internet shows. It didn't work so they'll come crawling to the table or their channels will stay off. Viacom has acted like children through this whole negotiation. I know their core audience thought this was great but the other 80% of us didn't.
     
  17. mitchflorida

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    I think its fair to say that Viacom owns a lot of cable channels that people watch but don't really care about. Put me in that category, especially now they are streaming their more popular shows.
     
  18. mnassour

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    Dropping ratings and sliding stock prices, with stock reduced from "buy" to "hold"?

    THAT kind of "protection" I don't need!
     
  19. fireponcoal

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    There's always bitmetv..
     

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