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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.
I am now going to blame YOU (as threadstarter) for EVERYTHING!
All we know is DirecTV doesn't want to spend a lot more money for the EPIX channel.
We don't know anything about whether they do or do not want to carry the EPIX channel.
well at least we got some honesty. It's about Epix. Honestly - i kinda want Epix. is it worth $500MM over 5 years? Not touching that, but if it could work out, I'd kinda like to have that channel. Kinda tend to think it should be subscription based like HBO.
I wish there was an option to suspend a series recording rather than having to outright delete it and then recreate it later. It would make it easier at times like these or when you go out of town to simply put it on hold.
Not sure how Epix would work (if it's a premium service or not), but my thing is that I'm hoping this is not the type of attitude that DTV had with G4, which it's not the price but rather what the channel IS! If DTV is looking at it like "we don't want to add this for any amount of money" and they're letting it be a complete block for everything else, then it'll be an extremely frustrating venture because they'll let one channel ruin things.
I'm with DTV about the extreme price hike, but as I've said before, DTV cannot be complete channel nazis and think we shouldn't have a say in whether or not a particular channel is worth our while.
Mike White makes 5.6 million dollars a year.
(In contrast, the Viacom CEO made 43 Million last year, and 83 million the year before).
I don't think Mike White has the funds to cover the more than 500 million that Viacom wants. However, if Viacom would just pay their CEO about 5 million dollars also, they would recoup the 500 million in about 12 years.
Not sure how long the contract is for, but if we are talking paycuts..... Viacom which has about HALF the revenue should not be paying its execs EIGHT TIMES as much. If paycutting needs to be done just to get this deal worked out..... lets start there.
+1 Tough and fair is fine with us, but tough and going too overboard isnt.
Hey, I'll take the blame!
Maybe DirecTV will let me negotiate with Viacom. I know how to make heads roll!
They're not "lying", probably just counting their ppv and part - time rsns...
Math is fun!
Actually it sounds to me like you are someone that had Directv said no progress was made and Viacom said there was youd still fault Directv. So yes, you do seem to be beating the drum for pro-Viacom.
Btw, this was just posted on Directv's Facebook page:
Viacom's current statement on our negotiations is completely inaccurate. They made a proposal last night for our carriage of the 17 channels they pulled from DIRECTV and we accepted all material terms for those channels including an increase that was more than fair. We are ready to close this deal at anytime and restore those channels to our customers.
However, as part of that offer, Viacom insists that we carry the EPIX channel at an additional cost of more than half a billion dollars. We know our customers don't want to pay such an extreme price for an extra channel, they simply want the ones they had returned to them. We stand ready and willing to work with Viacom to get this done and, once again, ask Viacom to do the right thing and restore these channels to our customers immediately. Thank you.
According to Directv's Facebook page, the only remaining sticking point is that Viacom wants D* to carry the EPIX channel. Here's the Statement:
Comcast carries it on our local cable, but I have no idea what they have on it. Maybe that ala carte idea might be of some value.
It sounds as if Viacom would want it as just part of one of the packages, but that isn't how it is on any other provider that I know of.
Dish has it as an al a carte` package @$7/month, or part of the BB@Home package @$10. I think the cable companies have it as either a stand alone package or part of some add-on package.
And yeah, I'd like to see Epix come to D* also. Good movies not on other channels and some European boxing that the others don't carry suits me just fine. Especially the Lions Gate stuff!!
So let's see, you are the one who probably tells people who complain about what's on TV to turn it off if you don't want your kids seeing it. Then I'll bet when that nipple gate happened in the Superbowl when people had no chance to change it and complained, then it was "they've seen worse, get over it." Now in my case I have nearly all of their channels blocked along with a few others and you come with this disrespectful crap. How about you don't worry about what happens in my house and keep your opinions about it to yourself?! I don't tell you what to watch at yours! And no you condescending arrogant jerk, I have "choice" so I have far less than most people with Directv!
really comcast said no and they even got EPSN to not force the longhorn channel.
So again, interesting you want Directv to do whatever Viacom wants but yet you claim to bang the drum for no one.
Actually 500million doesn't seem like all that bad of a price if the contract is for 5 years like everyone keeps saying. That would only be 42 cents a month if they gave the channel to everyone. Not bad compared to $16/month for HBO and $12/month for the others. Especially if we get all the Epix channels.
Now if it's 500million a year, then that's not nearly as good of a deal at $2.08 per subscriber per month if they give it to everybody, but still not horrible. If they kept it seperate and chargned $12/month for it like they do Cinemax, Shotwime, etc. they'd only need about 3.5million subscribers to cover the $500million, that's less that 18% of their subscribers.
Not sure but fios charges $10 a month for Epix.
You have to notice that they didn't say "We agreed to pay Viacom what they asked for", they said "more than fair". I'm sure that is how they see it.
I imagine Viacom responded to the lower offer with "OK, we'll take you lower increase offer but in return, you have to carry EPIX".
Taking what either side says as "truth" is just plain silly.