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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. zimm7778

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    I don't remember for sure but doesn't it come in their top line package with Showtimes and Cinemax's?
     
  2. tonyd79

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    I don't think it does but maybe. Can't remember either.
     
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    Thank for the great post! I sort of figure that if someone like Dish doesn't raise prices for a year they will double an increase later on. Who knows they may be lucky. I've been with Direct since 2006 and like clock work it's an extra $3 or so a year. It would be nice if they eased up every once in a while.
     
  4. tonyd79

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    I think they actually accepted a Viacom offer (reduced) for the missing channels. But the important thing that it was viacoms offer. Then Viacom threw them a curveball (again..they threw them off with the original pull the channels order).

    Viacom does not seem to be bargaining in good faith at all.
     
  5. Carl Spock

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    If Viacom would agree with to the truthfulness of DirecTV's recent comments - and thats a big If - it's also pretty amazing that we are getting details as specific as these in the middle of the negotiations. That's almost unheard of.

    It also makes me doubt the complete accuracy of both Viacom's and DirecTV's statements. I suspect more there is more spin here than light.

    I frankly don't like the sign. Negotiations like these are best conducted in private so that neither side is locked into a position.

    But then, this back and forth public whinning by both Viacom and DirecTV is completely in line with how this whole dispute has gone so far. It's been said upthread but it needs to be said again:

    This is so high school! :nono2:
     
  6. tonyd79

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    It could backfire but I think it was healthy that they called Viacom on the recent lies.

    Viacom seems to react to some of those stuff. They put shows back on line after being called on it. Maybe this is what they understand?

    But also, it is not "about Epix" except in how Epix is to be paid for and presented. They did have a disagreement on fees. The bulk has now been settled.
     
  7. Carl Spock

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    Very possibly, Tony. Back Viacom into a corner. Make them have to settle. It's not a bad plan.
     
  8. android.cphone

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    I still say lock viacom in a room and force them to watch the customer information channel for hundreds of
    hours then they would give direct tv the channels just to put an end to the looping nonsense
     
  9. tonyd79

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    Cruel AND unusual.

    I like it!
     
  10. BattleScott

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    I don't think that's completely accurate. Based on their own FB post, the EPIX was part of the proposal. They say that "accepted the proposal for those channels" but in the same breath, say that "however, part of the proposal was EPIX".

    So I think they are really exagerating their "acceptance".
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Or it backfires. Don't think it will.

    Viacom was stupid to say there was no progress. What does that get them when they were probably seconds away from a new contract?
     
  12. cjrleimer

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    Would anybody like to be a fly in the wall during this? Because I would, I mean its I said this while you said this. At this rate just play We built this city over and over again till this is done.
     
  13. tonyd79

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    Whatever you say. No one around here knows anything more than what is on a Facebook post.

    ;)
     
  14. darkpowrjd

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    You mad?

    I was saying that it sounds excessive when you have a nice bit of things to choose from. I was just a bit blunt about it (which I don't apologize for since it IS true that it is a ROUGH world out there full of a lot of crap...just look at DTV and Viacom acting the way they are about this and then tell me that TV isn't painting a fantasy world). You got all defensive about it and telling me to not concern myself with what happens in your house when you kind of brought it into the conversation by telling us you block a lot of Viacom channels (for moral reasons...why else would you code lock a channel for?). If you didn't want me or anyone else talking about what you don't and do block and didn't want us responding to that, then why the hell did you bring it up as part of this dialogue?

    You even said that you would rather DTV not bring the channels back because them doing so would mean you'd have to block them again. That's telling me that you're citing that as the reason why you're siding with DTV about the Viacom dispute, which is kind of the subject of this thread. It doesn't make me the "condescending arrogant jerk" when I respond to someone who inserted the moral value of the channels under their roof as PART of the narrative. You brought it up. You didn't expect anyone to respond?

    And more to the point, YES, if you're blocking THAT many channels (I could see you blocking MTV and maybe Spike or Comedy Central since it has a good bit of TV14 shows that kids shouldn't watch, I agree, but you admitted to having issues with a LOT more than that), and have THAT much of a problem with what airs on those channels, then not only are you doing a cardinal sin there (letting the TV be the babysitter), but you're probably also blocking a good bit of other non-Viacom channels. I'm sorry, but you made yourself out to be the overprotective one, there.

    Again, I'm not saying you have no right. You do what you want. I'm saying that you shouldn't bring that into the conversation and then never expect someone to call you out on it if they see it excessive, especially if it has something to do with the subject we're talking about.

    By the way, I never said a damn thing about Nipplegate. I think it's severely stupid that we're still going to that incident, which happened on LIVE F**KING TV which no one had any control over, as the focal point for everything that has ever happened on TV. The only grudge I have on that thing now is that we have to hear the PTC and their constant FCC spam fest every single time they feel frisky.
     
  15. harsh

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    Any chance this was a "pre-owned" car where additional mileage wasn't going to significantly impact its value?
     
  16. BattleScott

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    Very true. But the DirecTV post says that EPIX was part of the proposal, not a "curve ball" thrown in after they made an agreement.
     
  17. Carl Spock

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    My idea is to set up a conference call between Mike White, Sumner Redstone and a great CSR from Retention. Let her wrap up the deal. She could throw in free Sunday Ticket.
     
  18. tonyd79

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    Maybe curveball was a little strong. But still a new sticking point. The crux was always the price.

    Still is but mostly now on Epix.
     
  19. android.cphone

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    That would be a great idea but we do that after we force the customer info on them
     
  20. Carl Spock

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    This is the point where I stop believing either DirecTV's or Viacom's statement. The line that DirecTV wanted to settle last night but didn't reeks of spin. If they really, really, really wanted to settle, somehow the deal would have gotten done.

    My guess is that DirecTV feels they have the upper hand right now and wants to see what more time gets them. It could be hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of the contract. I'd sit on my hands for that kind of money.
     

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