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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 10, 2012 #321 of 3058
    Snickering Hound

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/analyst-cuts-viacom-stock-rating-346861

    And Viacoms stock was just downgraded thanks to under-performing programming. Shouldn't Directv be asking LESS to carry their programming instead of getting stuck with a 30% increase?
     
  2. Jul 10, 2012 #322 of 3058
    maartena

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    Please report back TOMORROW which carrier you will go to. :D

    It certainly looks like you will be without Nick tomorrow. Well, maybe now your kids will actually have to do something like.... reading. There's a scary thought. :D (And there are of course Disney channels for the time being)

    I'm not seeing any news at the moment of them being close to signing anything... from their Twitter account they mentioned just a few minutes before this post that they are still negotiating.

    It has been known to happen that a deal is reached at 11 PM with just an hour to go.... so we just don't know. But if indeed 1 day is too much, I'd seriously consider calling for an installation date of a new provider TODAY so you have your slot in with an installer, you can always call back and cancel if they make a deal.
     
  3. Jul 10, 2012 #323 of 3058
    Pepe Sylvia

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    Neither party wants to open their books. I agree with the sentiment, but it's never going to happen.
     
  4. Jul 10, 2012 #324 of 3058
    mnassour

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    Yea, I know. But if Viacom gets away with this one, then other providers will pile on.
     
  5. Jul 10, 2012 #325 of 3058
    zimm7778

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    I've kind of stayed mute on this. But maybe it's just coming off like this to me through text but some of these people it's like they think there household will meltdown into oblivion without Nick. Kind of scary really.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2012 #326 of 3058
    HarleyD

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    Well, seriously...just go then. No offense intended. That is your right as a consumer. You can choose what you buy and where you buy it.

    But to come on the internet and anonymously post your anger ad nauseum...and criticize those with a different perspective for wasting their time on the internet...well, can you see the irony?

    You claim you don't care, you can afford it and you just want the programming but the outrage you're spewing here says otherwise.

    If you really just wanted the programming, cost be damned, you'd already have another provider lined up.

    You've ranted. Now take a deep breath, think about it, make a reasoned decision (or an un-reasoned one) and just do whatever you're going to do. Raging on the internet isn't going to solve your problems...not a one of them.
     
  7. Jul 10, 2012 #327 of 3058
    maartena

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    I am willing to bet that some analyst at DirecTV has run the numbers on all of that and has presented his board with the findings, to be used in the negotiations. This news came at a pretty dire time for Viacom.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2012 #328 of 3058
    PCampbell

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    Switch to Dish, oh they just droped AMC. Go to Brighthouse or Comcast they will also be dropping channels like everyone else. I am all for standing up to the price increases.
     
  9. Jul 10, 2012 #329 of 3058
    Pepe Sylvia

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    I sometimes wonder what it would be like if they had let the Directv/Echostar merger go through. They let Sirius and XM do it.
     
  10. Jul 10, 2012 #330 of 3058
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    i finally had to register to weigh in on this,

    to all of you that say, just pay it and keep the channels,

    this would set a terrible precedent for future negotiations, if they cave to Viacom, the next up will hold out for the full asking price.

    I am a parent with a 5 year old, and he loves Nic channels,but we will go outside, play catch, read books, etc. Time for parents to be parents, not put there kids off on a tv to babysit.
     
  11. Jul 10, 2012 #331 of 3058
    mnassour

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    Well said, sir. It bears repeating!

    :welcome_s
     
  12. Jul 10, 2012 #332 of 3058
    mnassour

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    This might have been one of the good effects of such a merger. Viacom may be able to survive the loss of 20 million sets of eyeballs, but 35 million? That's a tough nut...especially when fewer and fewer people want to watch what you're putting out.
     
  13. Jul 10, 2012 #333 of 3058
    maartena

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    Like someone else already said in different words.... It is like the world is going to end in some houses, because the family doesn't know what to do with their kids if some of the kids channels are turned off, for what is probably not going to be for more then a week, if that, or if at all.

    Look, it is everyone's right to switch provider, state your opinion, and raise your children the way you see fit... but the world is NOT ending because Nick* channels are off the air for a bit. Your family will really survive this. Trust me.
     
  14. Jul 10, 2012 #334 of 3058
    zimm7778

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    It was 2 different issues which explains why they did it. I'll say both of those cases are one of the rare times in the last several years they've done their job. Although dragging their feet on the SXM merger almost killed the company IMO.

    One effect that would have come about from the merger is NFL ST would probably be exclusive to IN Demand now.
     
  15. Jul 10, 2012 #335 of 3058
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    The price increases for ala carte programming would be ginormous. You would pay a lot more for the channels you want, compared to what you are paying for them now.

    I'm not sure it would balance out, hard to say.

    Just be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. (although I think it is unlikely).
     
  16. Jul 10, 2012 #336 of 3058
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    Also, it's like 4 out of 7 or 8. It isn't like all they'll be left with are right wing and left wing news blowhards.
     
  17. Jul 10, 2012 #337 of 3058
    maartena

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    Its a bit more complicated then that.... just like with Sirius/XM, they were different services with different radios. I have a XM radio and can't get all the Sirius channels, just like Sirius radios can't get all the XM channels. Just recently they started selling radios that can receive everything.

    A Dish/DirecTV merger does NOT mean that all over sudden all DirecTV subscribers would get all them basic HD channels, nor do all Dish subscribers now have the option to get NFL Sunday Ticket.

    There is actually a good chance that a new "DirectDish" company would have to build a completely new receiver, that is capable of receiving signals from both Echostar and DirecTV satellites, and with the release of said receiver they would have to issue a new dish with a LNB that can talk to them all. You would still have MANY, MANY, years of legacy to overcome, and it could be 10+ years before a merged company really is able to offer ALL services to ALL customers.

    Chances are high that if such a merger would occur, Dish and DirecTV products would remain a separate product for quite some time to come.
     
  18. Jul 10, 2012 #338 of 3058
    damondlt

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    Stock is the problem. I don't feel bad for stock holders. Stock is the reason the companys will do what ever it takes to make up a loss. The customer always loses and the rich get richer.

    I don't know if a 30% increase is fair, and neither do you!

    If the customer pays .10 well 30% sounds kindof small to me! Just because 30% sounds big doesn't mean it is!
     
  19. Jul 10, 2012 #339 of 3058
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    We're getting off topic here, but I still don't understand why DirecTV and Dish dont jointly own a satellite LIL broadcasting service that supplies the LIL's to both company customers, surely that would be much cheaper than both services rebroadcasting the same channels. anyway as I said, off topic.
     
  20. Jul 10, 2012 #340 of 3058
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    Oh absolutely, I need to be more clear. I was referring only to the financial negotiations that a combined company would hold. Even though there would be two systems (for some time), a single satellite provider (something I'm not in favor of) would turn...or off...a programmer's access to all satellite customers in the country, meaning if you wanted to be on DBS, you'd have to play ball.
     

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