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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 11, 2012 #901 of 3058
    chicagojim

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    When are people going to realize that spell check is not enough?

    Maybe they could hire some better editors with the money they are saving.

    I'm sure I won't see any reduction in rates.



    "That’s over $1B on top of what you were already pay for not only MTV ..."

    :sure:
     
  2. Jul 11, 2012 #902 of 3058
    rmmccann

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    92 or not, you need to re-educate yourself on the internet. Yes, we have free speech in the USA - IN PUBLIC in the PHYSICAL WORLD. You're on a private forum on a private website, therefore you play by the rules set forth by the mods and community.

    Think of it this way - if I walked into your house and started calling you names and all around being stupid, you'd have every right to kick me out. It's the same concept here. It's OK to have a difference of opinion, but you better be able to do so respectfully.
     
  3. Jul 11, 2012 #903 of 3058
    BlackCoffee

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    I took a look at the channel line up in DirecTV packages. VIACOM is in every package. Whatever happens in terms of an operating expense increase to DirecTV gets passed on to everyone.

    Viacom bundling-They claim to be 20% of DirecTV's audience, but we are all paying the bill.
     
  4. Jul 11, 2012 #904 of 3058
    zimm7778

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    I have no problem with those people wanting their channels. Then let Viacom return and let people only pay for what they want just as I wish all channel providers would be forced to do.
     
  5. Jul 11, 2012 #905 of 3058
    hdtvfan0001

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    I suspect if 50% of the folks upset about losing "their" channels wrote letters with certified confirmation to the President of Viacom (or any other content provider) complaining about the huge increments of their price increases, with a CC: copy to the FCC....that would get exponentially more traction to accomplish something of value in the long run than simply posting frustration on a message board about it.

    A paper-based letter is often more powerful than 1000 e-mails.

    DirecTV is just one of many delivery services. The primary source and driver behind rate increases is the content providers (local and national).

    Many times when these situations come up...the venting is misdirected toward the wrong place.
     
  6. Jul 11, 2012 #906 of 3058
    RunnerFL

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    Yes, it is. It's legally binding too.
     
  7. Jul 11, 2012 #907 of 3058
    wingrider01

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    Does not matter if you are physically asked to "agree to the contract" The document they refer you to is it. The proof you agreed to it is you have their service, equipment and pay for it, if you did not then you would be correct. A lifespan of 2-3 years, dang tell that to the SD dvr that I have had running for about 7 years now that is just no being retired becasue of the obsolete equipment - you will be giving it a complex
     
  8. Jul 11, 2012 #908 of 3058
    susanandmark

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    Thanks for linking to the DirecTV boilerplate. Now my mind is changed. Clearly, DirecTV is doing customers an incredible service by tying a "contract signature" to doing simple things that they quite likely have no idea is locking them into such a commitment. That is WAAAY better than actually making people sign, real or electronically, an actual paper that says they understand that by doing this they are unable to leave for TWO FULL YEARS without paying a high fee ... And that this will continue to occur (and restart from scratch) each and every time they upgrade, switch or slightly modify their set-up, FOR LIFE.

    By the way, I don't have to legally point this out, but I'm a really good person, so I'll tell you that by reading this post you agreed to pay me $10 every time you tie your shoes. This is my "tripage protection" insurance, and I think you'll be very pleased with the results. I mean, you TOTALLY had a choice not to read this (or just leave your shoes untied for the rest of your life), so you should have known what you were getting into. After all, I've posted all the info in 4 pt. type on an obscure portion of my website, accessible via just 27 short clicks. Since I am a very reasonable person, if you prefer, you can pay me a $1 per shoe, per month ETF fee if you disagree with my Terms of Service which, of course, I can change at any time. I'll be looking for your check in the mail.
     
  9. Jul 11, 2012 #909 of 3058
    vobguy

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    Not to mention that they have also diluted the value of said programing to the providers by allowing it also to be seen online via Netflix and Hulu.
     
  10. Jul 11, 2012 #910 of 3058
    shendley

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    Of all the channels lost, I only care about Comedy Central and really only two shows there: The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. As a practical matter, what would you guys recommend as the best way to view it online? I've never used Hulu and the like. How much of a delay is there between when the episolde airs live and when you can get it online?
     
  11. Jul 11, 2012 #911 of 3058
    RunnerFL

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    Whew, it's a good thing my shoes stay tied and I slip them on and off. :lol:
     
  12. Jul 11, 2012 #912 of 3058
    wingrider01

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    /grin my oldest daughter is talking to her friends about a leter writing campaign, she tends ot be an organizer and is already a strong proponent of a couple of movements that interest her. Told her I will donate 100.00 for the postage, paper and ink
     
  13. Jul 11, 2012 #913 of 3058
    tulanejosh

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    unbundling is not necessarily the answer to a cheaper bill. You're assuming that the price per channel charged in a bundle would be the price charged unbundled. That's not necessarily true - they only charge those rates becuase of the scale of distribution. If they were unbundled, you'd pay a lot more per channel than you do now.

    As an example - i read somewhere - probably this forum that ESPN is somehting like $4 - $5 per subscriber bundled and put in the basic tier, but unbundled would be in the $30 or $40 range becuase they have to hit the same revenue targets to pay for production of the channel across fewer subscribers. You do this with 10 or 20 unbundled channels (not all would be as pricey as espn certainly) and you quickly approach the average bill people pay now with reduced access to stations that customers currently enjoy under the current model.
     
  14. Jul 11, 2012 #914 of 3058
    snappjay

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    keith_benedict

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    You're wrong.

    You don't have to sign a contract for it to be valid--I can tell you from personal experience in an actual court case.
     
  16. Jul 11, 2012 #916 of 3058
    RunnerFL

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    susanandmark

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    Oh darn, and I'm just SOOOO sorry to have to tell you this, but it says so very clearly in the TOS that slip on shoes require a $15 per application surcharge. Perhaps you should have read more carefully? Velcro, I'm afraid, will run you another $3/rip. If I can be of any further help, please let me know. Have a great day and, remember, #I'vegotyour(laces)back. :D
     
  18. Jul 11, 2012 #918 of 3058
    wingrider01

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    be careful what you ask for - mobile data is the perfect example - people wanted lower prices for data - they got them but they also lost unlimited data availabilty, people wanted a shared data plan, they got them but not what they expected in shared amounts for what they pay.
     
  19. Jul 11, 2012 #919 of 3058
    hdtvfan0001

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    I have firsthand seen that written letters, especially those well-constructed (and sent via delivery confirmation) get results.

    The problem is that this "old school" method is often avoided in lieu of the more convenient and easier way out - the e-mail or rant post.

    Let's get real - it's an ongoing contract negotiation process, with the current status of hostage tactics causing a service outage.

    Content provider pricing...and the results of disputes based on them...is a big issue in the TV industry as a whole. This latest Viacom situation is just a pimple on the face of the overall problem (provider greed). Anyone expecting changes to the situation without any kind of serious communications to the source of the issue is fooling themselves.
     
  20. Jul 11, 2012 #920 of 3058
    RunnerFL

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    Hah, shows what you know. They aren't "Slip on" shoes. They are shoes you have to tie but I've only had to tie them once and just slip them on and off since my feet aren't that fat. :lol:

    No Velcro either.
     

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