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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. tulanejosh

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    Spin spin spin my man. Directv is spinning facts just like viacom is spinning facts. Both are probably be mostly truthful. But its that mostly part you have to take with a grain of salt. How reasonable does it sound to you for someone to just blanketly demand 30% more - in this economy - without giving anything additional? Sounds like stupid business to me, and say what you want, but you dont get to be Viacom or Directv, or any of the rest of the Fortune 500 on the back of stupid business decisions.
     
  2. rmmccann

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    Not to mention a lot of that infrastructure was subsidized by government programs aiming to expand services. I don't know (but I assume someone here would) if DirecTV has received any government grants for launching their satellites?
     
  3. arkenhill

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    A quick question to all the people saying that they never signed a contract with DirecTV and therefore they have on contract with DirecTV. If you have no contract, what exactly is DirecTV doing wrong to you? If there is no contract they have zero obligations to you, right? On things like this that have gone on for years and years, I tend to side with the business for the simple reason that they most likely have lawyers for customers and man do lawyers like to sue when they think they have been wronged (and more power to 'em for doing that).
     
  4. tonyd79

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    Where once did I say they cared about me? I am talking about business and contracts. Without emotion. The only time I posted about them caring was that I said they did not want to drive customers away so they care that much. Wow. That is so much licking their boots. You are the one who started the emotional nonsense.
    That all depends on the cable company. I have Fios so I know what they do. But also, cable companies are locally regulated AND benefit from local infrastructure which DirecTV and Dish do not. But no matter, they get their money. It is bundled into the price. Or they charge you for a truck roll or some other mechanism.
     
  5. RunnerFL

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    Good point.

    Good question and I totally overlooked the Sats themselves in my earlier post. Those cost a few billion each not to mention the launch costs. Cable doesn't have those costs.
     
  6. gio12

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    Holy cow! That's crazy!
     
  7. texasmoose

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    I'd hate to be a front-line D* CSR working the phones today. What is the hold time to speak with someone?
     
  8. oldengineer

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    I know it's illegal for sellers of goods/services to form a cartel to set prices, but I don't see anything illegal for buyers to partner up to negotiate prices. It's too bad that D*, E*, and TWC can't get together and form a buyer's group to negotiate with providers.
     
  9. gio12

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    35-45 min when I called about my HR22 locking up. :mad:
     
  10. SParker

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    I would assume people getting large credits are talking to retention CSR's?
     
  11. BlackCoffee

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    I am sure that being a conspiracy theorist is attractive to you. Spoken like someone who has never had to run a business, provide a service, or control costs. There has got to be a government agency out there that will make DTV give you free entertainment and tax somebody in the 1% that actually has a business to pay for it. Keep looking behind you, they are out to get us all.
     
  12. rmmccann

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    Let's also not forget how much easier it is to maintain and repair terrestrial infrastructure. If DirecTV lost a satellite, it's not going to be something that can be fixed in a matter of hours/days.
     
  13. tonyd79

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    Do you get to be a Fortune 500 company by cutting off your paying customers from your one line offerings? Cause they just did that. Do you get to be a Fortune 500 company by making commercials and videos mocking your erstwhile partner? Cause they did that, even before the channels were yanked.

    Being a Fortune 500 company does not shield you from having bad management take over. It does not shield you from bad business practices (ever hear of "Too Big to Fail?") nor does it shield you from being greedy, stupid or dishonorable (ever hear of the banking industry?).
     
  14. texasmoose

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    This thread has some serious wings on it, under 48 hours since inception & almost 70k views!
     
  15. darkpowrjd

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    You know, I really, REALLY hate that they don't say anything about how the talks are going to actually resolve this. Are they even talking? How long until we can get these channels back so we can stop talking about this?

    The whole thing of taking down the streams and punishing everyone is a dick move, though! Why should those sites even matter, and why alienate your audience over this? This is between DTV and Viacom, not Viacom and DTV's customers. It's as if Viacom is thinking that it's the customer's fault. CAN Viacom get in trouble for doing that to people? I know they have been douchebags in the past, but c'mon guys. Enough with punishing the little guys. You want us to choose the "real deal"! GET SOMETHING DONE AND GIVE US OUR DAMN CHANNELS BACK!

    I know, right? And not any real new news about the dispute other than that idiotic move of Viacom's streaming video!
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    What do you want, live CSPAN coverage?

    They update us when there is an update at directvpromise.com.
     
  17. dbstv

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    with lost of AMC dish gave me for free a Ruko box hdmi cable and up 30 off my bill for next few months

    Wonder what I will get with DTV

    and yes I sub to both services I like way too much TV
     
  18. darkpowrjd

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    Wow, man. I just gave my opinion and you got all offended about it. Not sure WHY, but....yeah!
     
  19. sigma1914

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    I have to call this week for things totally unrelated and am dreading it. :lol:
     
  20. tonyd79

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    Not as much.

    The big difference, as I see it, is that Dish has zero intention of putting AMC and the others back on. That is why they gave you an alternative. Because they don't want to lose you as a customer.

    DirecTV intends to settle with Viacom eventually. If they ever give up, maybe there will be other remedies, but as of now, the most you will get is a discount.
     

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