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DirecTV vs. Hopper Comparison

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by joshjr, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. Apr 9, 2013 #81 of 143
    celticpride

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    Just out of curiosity i checked my season passes, and found 27 of them were broadcast network shows,and 17 were cable shows,so i'm still a littled confused which provider would be better for me, but i loved directv when i had it yet the dish hopper intrigues me. In the end i think i still go back to directv because of their sports.
     
  2. Apr 9, 2013 #82 of 143
    RAD

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    You'd have to look and see how many concurrent season passes you have to figure that out.
     
  3. Apr 9, 2013 #83 of 143
    Bill Broderick

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    Please ignore what I wrote below. Apparently I misunderstood how Primetime Anytime works. I was under the impression that it did not use one of the 3 tuners in the Hopper.

    [strike]How many of those 27 network show air at the same time as one another? If you were recording 27 show but they are all at different times, then you're better off with the Genie, as you would only be using 1 tuner to record network programming and would still have 4 tuners available to record other porgramming, while you would only have 3 available tuners on the Hopper.

    However, if there are times when you are recording programs on 3 or 4 networks all at the same time, then the Hopper would be a good option for you because you would still have 3 tuners available to record other programming, whereas you would only have 1 or 2 available tuners on the Genie.

    If you there are a bunch of times where you are recording two network shows simultaneously, then the number of available tuners are a wash between the two systems.[/strike]
     
  4. Apr 9, 2013 #84 of 143
    veryoldschool

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    Isn't there a math problem here? :confused:
    The Hopper has 3 tuners, so if the networks are being recorded, that leaves only 2 "free".
     
  5. Apr 9, 2013 #85 of 143
    Bill Broderick

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    It's not a math problem. But it may be an understanding problem. Doesn't the Hopper have a 4th tuner that is only used for Primetime Anytime?
     
  6. Apr 9, 2013 #86 of 143
    David Ortiz

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    No.

     
  7. Apr 9, 2013 #87 of 143
    Bill Broderick

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    I must have misunderstood a post early in this thread that said that with 2 Hoppers, he has "6 tuners plus PTA" to mean that he essentially had 7 tuners available to him.


    Nevermind.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2013 #88 of 143
    lparsons21

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    I think there was some confusing post about that.

    If you add the OTA tuner box to the Hopper, you get 4 tuners available all the time and effectively 7 tuners during primetime if you use PTAT.
     
  9. Apr 9, 2013 #89 of 143
    lparsons21

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    Here's a scenario that is not all that uncommon in multi-TV homes. Many are getting 2 Hoppers and maybe some Joeys.

    In that scenario here's some ways to use them.
    1. At any time you have 6 tuners available to watch/record from.
    2. If one of the channels you are recording/watching is one of the big 4, then you have effectively 9 tuners working. (5 any channel, 1 recording 4 broadcast)
    3. If you add an OTA box to either or both you increase the available tuners to either 10 or 11 depending on one or 2 OTA boxes.

    I'm considering adding a Joey to my system as it would then allow me to manage both Hoppers from a single spot at the loss of PIP for me if I was actually watching from the Joey. It would even be feasible to have Hoppers out of the way and not connected to an actual TV and watch everything from a Joey. Could make a very clean install.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2013 #90 of 143
    mitchflorida

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    Can you get DTV without the local channels? I thought they had stopped that option.


    Why would you use OTA otherwise?
     
  11. Apr 9, 2013 #91 of 143
    Diana C

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    Wait...PTAT is a satellite feed of the 4 major networks, right?...so unless you have something you want to record that is on a non-network OTA channel (fairly unlikely, IMHO) that OTA tuner is pretty useless during primetime.
     
  12. Apr 9, 2013 #92 of 143
    P Smith

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    PTA utilize packing major four (where available) into one mux (eventually on one tpn).
    It's a method of recording to use just one tuner, it's not a some sort of satellite feed.
    You don't need PTA as invention to play with channels.
     
  13. Apr 9, 2013 #93 of 143
    ehilbert1

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    My wife records some shows on The CW. So the over the air tuner works out good for her.

    The best thing about The Hopper is you can own two of them with Sling for $199 a piece. That's still cheaper than one Genie. So there is that! Dish Depot!
     
  14. Apr 9, 2013 #94 of 143
    dpeters11

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    The fact of the matter is neither device is the perfect solution for everyone. For some, Hopper makes sense. For others the Genie.
     
  15. Apr 9, 2013 #95 of 143
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    I don't think you have ever checked the DIRECTV promo's, because you can get a Genie and 3 Mini Genie's for $0.00. So it beats the price of 1 Hopper for $199 or 2 for $398. So there is that! DIRECTV website!

    On earlier comments about 3/5 tuners no big deal, well it is to me. During football season, I sometimes record 3 live games on NFLST. I like to flip to other games and be able to rewind to catch a TD, watch a drive, etc. And during that period, I sometimes have 2 cable or local stations recording at the same time.
     

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  16. Apr 9, 2013 #96 of 143
    lparsons21

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    He was talking about buying a Hopper.

    From Dish's website a new customer can get a new Hopper w/Sling and 3 Joeys for zero dollars upfront. Similar to what D* is offering.

    And you can get an additional Hopper for $100 if that isn't enough. And if you just have to have 3 Hoppers, you can buy one outright for $199.

    When I switched I got one Hopper w/Sling for free, the additional Hopper for $100 and could have gotten 3 Joeys to go with for nothing more.

    Which shows that from an upfront hardware cost standpoint, Dish and Direct are nearly identical for leased units for a new customer. For existing customers, Dish just like Direct has prices all over the place depending on many factors. But one fact is definitely true, I can buy a Hopper cheaper than I can buy a Genie.
     
  17. Apr 9, 2013 #97 of 143
    Bill Broderick

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    Spoken like a woman :) (You knew that one was going to come back an bite you at some point, didn't you?).

    In your own home town, the Mets & Yankees have some games broadcast on non-network channels (PIX and MY9). I'm sure that people in NY record those games on their DVR's.

    Also, don't forget the popularity of Downton Abbey on PBS.
     
  18. Apr 9, 2013 #98 of 143
    veryoldschool

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    DirecTV carries 4 HD local PBS here, so there isn't a need for OTA, but then not all my HD locals are on one TP either, so the Genie wins [again] :lol:
     
  19. Apr 9, 2013 #99 of 143
    RACJ2

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    OK, it didn't sound like that in his post. And I'm assuming you mean upfront cost to lease a Hopper, not buy it. That's a reasonable price to add one as an existing customer. I did get my Genie for free, while being an existing customer. Although typically they cost $299.
     
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    I much prefer the looks of the HR44's remote to the Hoppers. Of course that's personal taste. I had the Hopper for awhile and sent it back. So I don't remember for sure how similar the guides are between the Hopper and the HR44 but I do know it does not give you any options of how many channels can be presented on the screen at the same time. With the 722 you have several guide choices including 7 channels shown on a single screen and you can go out 3 hours of programming. That's especially nice because Prime Time just happens to run from 7pm to 10pm or 3 hours. BTW, tonight "E" showed the Suns game on FSNA in lovely SD. Idiots.
     

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