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DirecTV with a Generator

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by llupin, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. patmurphey

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    You really ought to take a hard look at Generac's Nexus Service Disconnect 200A switch with load shedding. All you need is a generator with KW rating for critical power needs (including items like well pumps and sewage pumps) and comfort needs, and with a little discipline and load understanding during a power outage, you can get by with a smaller generator than you think. Lower cost, gas consumption, and noise level can result.

    With my house, the 10KW unit works (the smallest with the Nexus switch), but I have to increase my gas meter size. Elizabethtown Gas does that at no charge.
     
  2. Rich

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    Why can't they run longer?

    That's not gonna happen. I'd move to PA first.

    Well, some folks are going on almost 2 months without electricity in the City.

    Still have plenty of time. Been thinking of buying an "emergency" home.

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  3. loudo

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    That switch was my choice also and the one they are putting on my 14kw Generac.
     
  4. Rich

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    We're not familiar with each other. I've been an electrician for 40 years. I understand the electrical parts of this, the gas part is something I can deal with. I think I'll give PSE&G a call and see if they'll change the meter out at no charge also. Thanx for that idea.

    Rich
     
  5. Herdfan

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    They "can" do it, it is just not what they are designed for. Just change the oil once a week and they will keep running.
     
  6. Rich

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    That makes me feel a bit better... :)

    Rich
     
  7. brad2388

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    I said the same thing with generacs. At 3600 rpm nothings going to last. U have to change the oil once a week if ur going to run it non stop. It only holds 2 qts.

    The nexus switch is just a name. All there switches have been the same but there just controlling it with a electronic controller called the nexus. Its automatic like they always been but its just a digital readout. For the money generac is the way to go. But buyer beware!
     
  8. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Most commercial generators are 1800 RPM and not 3600 RPM.

    They are also liquid cooled - not air cooled.

    There is a reason for both if you want long term use (especially with Generac units).
     
  9. brad2388

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    Yep yep. Hence why there not made to run for long periods of time
     
  10. trdrjeff

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    Anyone think they'll need it for this:

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  11. Rich

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    I just called Generac and they told me that the residential gennys can run continuously and that they have indicators for the oil that tell you if the pressure is bad or if something else is wrong. I asked about using synthetic oil, which I use in all my cars, and was told I could.

    In their FAQ I found this:

    Unlike other engines, used in backup power generation, Generac OHVI engines are made specifically for generators. They are engineered to run for the long periods of time required during a severe power outage or on a job site, utilizing the same type of pressurized oil lubrication used to give automobile engines long and trouble-free lives.

    I'm feeling a lot better about the Generacs now. I also asked if they actually used a generator or an alternator in the whole home units and it is an alternator.

    I also asked about running them for a month or more and was told to just keep an eye on the unit's readouts and I'd be fine.

    Rich
     
  12. loudo

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    That is my reason for selecting generac for my backup system.
     
  13. sbl

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    My dealer recommends checking the oil level every couple of days, but otherwise no problem with extended running. I note that with LP/NG, the oil stays clear as compared to a gasoline engine where it turns dark almost immediately.
     
  14. Herdfan

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    I use Mobil 1 5W-30. Generac's oil recommendations are a bit screwy. The winter oil and summer oil have very little overlap. So in the shoulder months where it could be 60 during the day and 30 at night, they really don't have a good recommended oil for those periods.

    So I called and asked about using the 5W-30 synthetic year-round and was told it was OK.
     
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  16. SomeRandomIdiot

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    No matter what you might have found in their FAQs, the residential Generacs are listed as "Standby Generators". On the surface, that makes sense, as you don't use them 24/7/365. But dig deeper and you will find they are called that because they are meant for short duration standby use, not continuous use for a period of time. They even state that in their owners manual.

    Generacs are known for issues running longer periods of time instead of short term standby. Have plenty of oil and filters ready if you plan for using it more than ~ day.

    As noted above, that is why commercial generators are 1800 RPM instead of 3600 RPM and liquid cooled instead of air cooled.
     
  17. brad2388

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    Thanks there somerandomidiot!




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  18. sbl

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    I have a Generac 10KW standby generator and it ran continuously for a week and a half after an ice storm a couple of years ago.The generator-specializing company who installed it told me that it would be fine, but they recommended shutting it down every couple of days to check the oil.
     
  19. loudo

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    That is what I was told by the company that installed my unit.
     
  20. codespy

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    Running a Generac 16KW residential unit since July, 2008. Replaced filter in spring 2010 and changed oil to Mobil 1- 5W-30 after talking with the Generac production facility a couple miles away from my house.

    Just replaced the battery in it last weekend since they only last 5 years, the oil is clean even after 3 years, and the exerciser runs it 10 minutes every week. Not many outages at all, the longest was for 6 hours two years ago.

    These units are hard to blow up, and look at the beating portable generators take on construction job sites running all day long for years.


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