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directv work on Xbox One with passthrough

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by chintups3, May 29, 2013.

  1. May 30, 2013 #21 of 111
    Mike_TV

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    Don't forget that you'll most likely need to have an Xbox Live Gold subscription in addition to your Directv monthly service for the guide, the ability to bring up Internet Explorer to surf the web while you are watching TV, Skype, etc.
     
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  2. May 30, 2013 #22 of 111
    mdavej

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    I don't think they would necessarily spy on you, but they could, as could anyone else who forces them to share their data. They can and probably will use your observed behavior and speech for targeted advertising and "market research" just like they do with your web searches today. In addition, they'll know exactly what you're watching (I know DirecTV does the same thing).

    On the privacy side, it's just plain creepy to have HAL watching and listening to you 24x7. Unless you're an exhibitionist, your web cam and cell phone cam isn't watching all the time, only when you want it to.

    I'm not one for conspiracies, but this ever increasing intrusion into people's homes is disconcerting. And I won't be taking part in it, if at all possible. Call me crazy, but I'd rather just watch TV than my TV watch me.
     
  3. May 30, 2013 #23 of 111
    tv.fan

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    Whoever has or can gain access to the camera and/or mic in any system will be spying, and no it is not extreme not wanting those items in ones house, it is good common sense.

    No cell phone / no ipads / no pcs with that junk. no remote monitoring house protection junk, no remote operated garage doors and etc
     
  4. May 30, 2013 #24 of 111
    tv.fan

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    it inot a conspiracy data mining and being able to predict what people will do in future (no matter what it is) is the gold rush of the 21st century
     
  5. May 30, 2013 #25 of 111
    peds48

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    Wow, talk about being paranoid....
     
  6. May 31, 2013 #26 of 111
    mdavej

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    You're ok with a machine connected to the internet inside your home that hears and sees everything you say and do? Even if it's never used for data mining or, at worst, spying, it's still creepy and an invasion of privacy.

    I'm guessing you're a younger guy who grew up in the internet age, where you have no problem sharing every intimate detail of your life with the whole world a la facebook, twitter, etc. I'm from a different era where we value privacy and personal space. I also think full-body airport scanners are an invasion of privacy. So there.
     
  7. May 31, 2013 #27 of 111
    peds48

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    you got the "younger" guy part right :) . but I do not use twitter and the reset of that cr@p. the only reason I have facebook, it is because it is required as a log in for certain apps.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2013 #28 of 111
    Christopher Gould

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    tinfoil hat too.
     
  9. Jun 1, 2013 #29 of 111
    peds48

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    so you prefer to be blown up into places rather than "given up" a little bit of privacy....

    better safe than sorry, at least on my books....
     
  10. Jun 2, 2013 #30 of 111
    domingos35

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    embrace the future ,forget the past
     
  11. Jun 6, 2013 #31 of 111
    harsh

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    At some point, the Xbox has to vouch for whatever is connected to it.
    I'm not sure that I buy that there couldn't be some manner of recording done via the Xbox; especially if it has a component output.

    There's a whole lot more to something that modifies the video and/or audio stream than simply "passing through". Overlay is not a feature of today's HD video stream; the stream must be re-rendered with the goodies on it.
     
  12. Jun 6, 2013 #32 of 111
    DawgLink

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    I have no interest in having my Xbox be my DirecTV box.

    I love my Xbox but I will wait for a few updates before I get it.
     
  13. Jun 7, 2013 #33 of 111
    slice1900

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    What do you mean by "vouch for whatever is connected to it"? It has to obey HDCP, just like a Directv receiver or Blu Ray player does. Whether the Xbox One or Blu Ray or Directv receiver or whatever, if there is an HDCP compliant device on the other end of its HDMI output, then it will output the content. If there is not, then it will refuse.


    Think of the Xbox One as an AVC, just like some people have sitting between their Directv receiver and TV. It takes HDMI in, potentially does something to it, then outputs HDMI. So long as no copying takes place, it is free to send any HDCP protected content to its output (provided the device connected is HDCP compliant) It decrypts it to be able to alter it (overlay its own crap) then re-encrypts it again with its own HDCP key.

    Of course you can potentially record what it outputs, in that respect it would be no different than whatever device it is getting its HDMI input from (Directv receiver, cable box, Blu Ray player) You don't even need component if you want to record an HD stream, there are some technically illegal (in the US, but not in other parts of the world) HDMI splitters that drop HDCP protection, and there are devices that will record an unprotected HDMI input. Between the two, you could record HBO off a Directv receiver's HDMI output if you wanted, despite the protection it intends to provide.

    What do you mean by "overlay is not a feature of today's HD video stream"? First of all, HDMI is not a "video stream", it is a series of 1920x1080 bitmaps. MPEG4 is a video stream, but the MPEG4 has already been uncompressed prior to any bits getting to the Xbox One. It receives a single bitmap frame in 1/60th (for 720p or 1080p) or 1/30th (for 1080i) of a second and would be loading it into a buffer as it comes in. It can then change the value of any individual pixels as needed to overlay whatever graphics it likes before sending it via its HDMI output.

    This is exactly what your TV does if you're watching something coming in its HDMI input and you hit the volume button and you see some graphics pop up on the screen for moment to tell you the volume is now 21. That's an overlay, just like what the Xbox One will do. There is no "rendering" involved. Since every TV I've ever seen that has an HDMI input (plus plenty in the days before HDMI came around) can do an overlay every time you hit volume, or menu or mute or whatever, I don't think the Xbox One is going to have any difficulty doing so.
     
  14. Jun 7, 2013 #34 of 111
    crkeehn

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    Anyone that has an android phone can see the extent to which data mining and sharing can exist. I search on my desktop for information on a particular address or business only to have Google Now offer directions and tell me how many minutes it will take to get to that address. it may be a service, but it can also be creepy
     
  15. Jun 7, 2013 #35 of 111
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    Speaking of Xbox, insiders are saying Microsoft lost the console war with the XBOX One, and it isn't even out yet. semiaccurate.com/2013/05/22/microsoft-subtly-admits-losing-with-xbox-one/ www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx_mobile.html Wonder where Microsoft is going at with this....
     
  16. Jun 7, 2013 #36 of 111
    sigma1914

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    All your paranoia, but you're surfing the internet? lol
     
  17. Jun 7, 2013 #37 of 111
    cypherx

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    What's with Microsoft lately? Windows 8, now Xbox one?
     
  18. Jun 7, 2013 #38 of 111
    Aridon

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    You forgot Surface RT. Overly expensive Surface Pro.

    In trying to wall off their garden, pathetically I might add, they are pissing off a lot of consumers.
     
  19. Jun 7, 2013 #39 of 111
    cypherx

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    You forgot Surface RT. Overly expensive Surface Pro.

    In trying to wall off their garden, pathetically I might add, they are pissing off a lot of consumers.


    Ah yes. Totally unnecessary. Also Server 2012, who thought the Windows 8 tiles was a good idea? I guess to make the UI so ugly you install only server core and use remote management tools.
     
  20. Jun 8, 2013 #40 of 111
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