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Dish AutoHop vs Networks Commercial Skipping Discussion

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by phrelin, May 15, 2012.

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  1. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

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  2. jdskycaster

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    Is it just me or has the autohop delay also increased. I find that my system plays most of the first commercial at each break and am now regularly hitting the forward skip to engage autohop. Not a huge deal but each time I am having to advance to the point where it autohops. Zero putton pushes have now become at least one button push for each commercial break.
     
  3. RasputinAXP

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    Yes it has; it was introduced in the latest firmware update.
     
  4. SayWhat?

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    Unless you need a Proctologist, what are you talking about?
     
  5. James Long

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    IANAL = I am not a lawyer.
     
  6. mnassour

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    Interesting article from one of the industry bibles today, TVNewscheck....
    Entire article: http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/...ell:+Take+Your+Cue+From+Moonves+And+Skip+Dish

    (or)

    http://tinyurl.com/9t9mrh8

    CBS appears to be ready to drop Dish as a distributor come contract time and is urging the three others to do the same.

    (If this has already been started, please point me there, thanks!)
     
  7. Stewart Vernon

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    CBS is in a weird place... in that they could only really threaten to pull local stations that they own and operate.

    On a related note.

    I'm surprised (and maybe they already have) the networks wouldn't make a big deal out of AutoHop ONLY working for the "big 4" ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX....

    If you read Dish's reasoning that they believe people should be able to watch TV however they want... then why didn't Dish make AutoHop work for ALL commercial channels?

    The fact that they are singling out the "big 4" shows that Dish isn't really on the customer's side in this... they are just leveraging against the traditional OTA channels.

    That is bound to come up in the courts if this thing goes very long.
     
  8. jdskycaster

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    This is much ado about nothing. I rarely find myself with an opportunity to use autohop anyway. When I do the current additional delay that has been inserted by Dish almost always means an additional button press anyway.

    The most Autohop has saved me is a few button presses on the rare occasion that I find a show that I actually care about on a channel that is supposed to be free but yet I have to pay a monthly fee for. The networks execs can stick their lawsuit where the sun does not shine!
     
  9. James Long

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    I have noticed that Auto-Hop is becoming available earlier in the evening. I have Auto-Hopped programs recorded at 8pm or 9pm before 11pm. This places more value on the function ... and likely ticks off OTA broadcasters more.
     
  10. scooper

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    Let them get ticked - if they weren't shoving nearly 1/3 of the programming time with ads, it wouldn't be an issue.
    IMO, anyway...
     
  11. Jaspear

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    Yep, and they keep pushing the envelope. What was 45 minutes (or more) of programming is now 42 minutes (or less), obnoxious and distracting lower third graphics, over the top product placement with obvious, inane scripting, and on and on. The auto-hop feature ought to be instantaneous and expanded to more channels. The networks started it, not Dish.
     
  12. djlong

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    45 minutes? Heck, when I startd watching it was *51* minutes per hour (confirmed when I saw the running times of Star Trek episodes on VHS) and I distinctly remember there being a discussion from time to time of "how much is too much" with regards to commercials.
     
  13. Stewart Vernon

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    Bottom line, though... without those sold commercial spots, most of the TV shows people like wouldn't be produced... UNLESS we all paid $10-$15 per channel like for commercial-free networks like HBO...

    Going back to the earliest days of TV, it was corporate sponsors that made broadcast TV possible.
     
  14. Michael P

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    That explains what I saw during the RNC & DNC on FNC. When commercials were shown there was a PIP window with the live action at the podium. At the time I thought what's up with that? After reading this thread I now understand why that PIP window was used. (if someone else commented earlier I apologize - I skipped ahead 28 pages, this is the first day I paid attention to this thread).
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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