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DISH Disappointed with CBS' Interference with CNET's "Best of CES" Awards

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by tsmacro, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. Jan 10, 2013 #1 of 126
    tsmacro

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    LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- DISH's Hopper™ with Sling® Whole-Home HD DVR was disqualified from CNET's "Best of CES" awards program at the last minute today because CNET's parent, CBS Corp., is in litigation with DISH regarding Hopper's consumer-friendly Prime Time Any Time and the AutoHop™ commercial-skipping features.

    After CNET posted a review entitled "Dish Hopper with Sling: HD DVR almost has it all," Hopper with Sling was named a finalist by CNET for its Best of CES awards. Winners were named today at the Consumer Electronics Show.

    The following statement can be attributed to DISH CEO and President Joe Clayton:

    "We are saddened that CNET's staff is being denied its editorial independence because of CBS' heavy-handed tactics. This action has nothing to do with the merits of our new product. Hopper with Sling is all about consumer choice and control over the TV experience. That CBS, which owns CNET.com, would censor that message is insulting to consumers.

    "DISH is not afraid to stand up for consumer rights and we think that Hopper with Sling will do well, despite the network's questionable actions.

    "We have had a long, productive relationship with CNET's editorial staff and we look forward to continuing that relationship. We welcome their unbiased evaluation and commentary of our products and services."

    The new Hopper with Sling, unveiled at 2013 CES, delivers several capabilities that improve the DISH experience at home and on the go by allowing customers to watch live and recorded television anywhere on Internet-connected tablets, smartphones and PCs at no additional charge using the Hopper's new built-in Sling capabilities as well as move recorded television to an iPad for viewing without an Internet connection.

    Links:

    CNET review — "Dish Hopper with Sling: HD DVR almost has it all": http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-vid...h-hopper-with-sling/4505-6474_7-35566943.html
    CNET Tweet — DISH Hopper with Sling Nominated for "Best of CES" award: http://twitter.com/CNET/statuses/289090800011313152
    DISHNews tweet announcing CES nomination (with photo): https://twitter.com/DISHNews/status/289115675958579200
    CNET CES Award Finalists list including a disclaimer at the bottom of the page regarding the removal of DISH Hopper with Sling: http://ces.cnet.com/2731-34437_1-2034-2.html
    Images attached:

    CNET Review — "Dish Hopper with Sling: HD DVR almost has it all"
    CNET Tweet — DISH Hopper with Sling Nominated for "Best of CES" award
    CNET List of Finalist — DISH Hopper with Sling (Included)
    CNET List of Finalist — DISH Hopper with Sling (Removed)
    About DISH

    DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH), through its subsidiary DISH Network L.L.C., provides approximately 14.042 million satellite TV customers, as of Sept. 30, 2012, with the highest quality programming and technology with the most choices at the best value, including HD Free for Life. Subscribers enjoy the largest high definition line-up with more than 200 national HD channels, the most international channels, and award-winning HD and DVR technology. DISH Network Corporation's subsidiary, Blockbuster L.L.C., delivers family entertainment to millions of customers around the world. DISH Network Corporation is a Fortune 200 company. Visit www.dish.com.

    Source: DISH Network Corporation
     
  2. Jan 10, 2013 #2 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    Good for CBS
     
  3. Jan 10, 2013 #3 of 126
    MikeW

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    It would seem that there certainly is a conflict of interest here. I can see CBS' point. Too bad for Dish, but I doubt there is enough prestige with this award to deem it an issue getting worked up about.

    Who won the award three years ago?
     
  4. Jan 10, 2013 #4 of 126
    Stewart Vernon

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    Poor showing by CBS if you ask me. CNET should be an independently run entity IF it is to have any credibility. This action by owner CBS calls the credibility of CNET into play.

    How can you trust any review by CNET if you know CBS is looking over their shoulder? You now have to ask, if the winner had some positive ties to CBS... the whole thing becomes a muddled mess.

    Dish is taking the high road by praising CNET and their past relationship with CNET.

    You can see the writing on the wall here... CBS didn't want to see a scenario where the new Dish Hopper w/ Sling wins a "best in show" award while CBS is part of a lawsuit trying to make them stop having some of the features that would make it a "best in show" product.
     
  5. Jan 10, 2013 #5 of 126
    djlong

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    Good for CBS?

    If CBS told 60 minutes to kill a story because it reflected poorly on an advertiser, would you still say "Good for CBS"?
     
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    boba

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    What goes around comes around Charley never learned how to wash the other hand.
     
  7. Jan 10, 2013 #7 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    Good for anyone who holds Charlie accountable for his poor choices.
     
  8. Jan 10, 2013 #8 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    Much like Disney's questionable credibility when extorting carriers regarding separation of ESPN.
     
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    tampa8

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    You make 0 sense, honestly 0. This is a black eye to Cnet, and perhaps a big one. There will now be questions by other sites as to why CNET reviewed a product as it did. Is it because CBS would not let them review the better product? Did CBS tell CNET a particular product's maker is friendly to CBS? This actually has less to do with Dish or Charlie, but instead the credibility of a review site.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2013 #10 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    Based on what exactly? A press release from Dish Network? That's it? A black eye...right...
     
  11. Jan 10, 2013 #11 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    Could almost be a fatal blow.
     
  12. Jan 10, 2013 #12 of 126
    Sanderson K.

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    Good for CBS...bad for anyone who enjoys unbiased (unbiased as possible anyway) reporting.

    I'm no fan of Charlie or Dish (even side with the networks on the auto hop fiasco), but this is bad form. CNETs credibility just went to the dogs.
     
  13. Jan 10, 2013 #13 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    They said they won't be reviewing any products made my companies they are in litigation with. Sounds like a good idea.
     
  14. Jan 10, 2013 #14 of 126
    Sanderson K.

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    Perhaps they shouldn't be reviewing any products at all now, they can no longer be trusted.
     
  15. Jan 10, 2013 #15 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    Haha. Now that is funny.
     
  16. Jan 10, 2013 #16 of 126
    Stewart Vernon

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    Exactly!

    Dish doesn't need a "best in show" award to sell their new Hopper w/ Sling... In fact, this is free publicity to them!

    But CNET gets a huge black eye... and any product that gets a bad review has an open door to ask "did CBS influence this"... and any product not reviewed at all can ask "did CBS say no"... and every consumer who looks to CNET for an unbiased review of a product should now question every review as perhaps having a string attached that they played nice behind the scenes in order to get CBS' thumbs up!

    A pebble in the pond to Dish... but a change in the course of the river to CNET.

    Heck... Dish might even be able to use this in the lawsuit against CBS as evidence that CBS is exercising unfair control and pressure against improving technology by wielding the power to try and make a product go away by waving their hand at a trade show.
     
  17. Jan 10, 2013 #17 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    Imagine if Underwriter's Laboratories was owned by General Electric and allowed GE to have influence on test results.

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  18. Jan 10, 2013 #18 of 126
    phrelin

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    "Disappointed" is the right word. It is disappointing. It's not tragic or horrifying. Nor all that important. Unless you're one of the CNET staffers involved in the review who was told to "rig the vote"....
     
  19. Jan 10, 2013 #19 of 126
    James Long

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    Credit should be given to cNet for mentioning the conflict. The Hopper with Sling could have simply quietly disappeared from their pages. I imaging it would be embarrassing for CBS to laud praise on a product that they were trying to remove from the market ... "it is the best product ever - and that's why it must die!" :lol:

    It does add an asterisk to anyone who won in the category. "Best of CES*" (except DISH products).
     
  20. Jan 10, 2013 #20 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    This is also why I don't like cross media ownership or influence.

    A broadcast company should not be in print media.
     

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