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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by lparsons21, May 4, 2012.

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  1. May 13, 2012 #241 of 1922
    phrelin

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    I have no idea what any of these channels are worth to viewers because we don't get a chance to buy them individually or even by ownership group.

    But we do have some information from the 2009 chart and from the 2012 top 20 list which shows the following:

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    I guess I think that in a retransmission agreement for the next five years if I were AMC I'd simply have my fee set at whatever the provider is paying for ESPN2. Seems fair to me. [​IMG]
     
  2. May 13, 2012 #242 of 1922
    tampa8

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    Lol, yep.
     
  3. May 13, 2012 #243 of 1922
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    ESPN 3D $2.71??? WTF? :mad: They are arguing over subscriber fees for AMC yet they are willing to pay $2.71 for ESPN 3D?? And the 3D market isn't mainstream yet either!!

    I think Dish needs to get their priorities straight!
     
  4. May 13, 2012 #244 of 1922
    RAD

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    Dish doesn't have ESPN 3D.
     
  5. May 13, 2012 #245 of 1922
    James Long

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    Cost and value are not equivalent to the customer. Even with a la carte the customer is not paying the exact cost of the channel ... they are usually paying the cost plus a mark up (DISH is not a not for profit company). In some cases the charged price may not cover the actual cost of provision (such as locals) but the additional cost can be covered in the regular package prices or other required base package.
     
  6. May 13, 2012 #246 of 1922
    Paul Secic

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    Are AMC IFC AMC in AT 200?
     
  7. May 13, 2012 #247 of 1922
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    Yes.
     
  8. May 13, 2012 #248 of 1922
    tampa8

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    More like getting the information correct I think. Dish does not think it is worth it, and does not carry it. So do you agree Dish does have their priorities straight? :D
     
  9. May 13, 2012 #249 of 1922
    RasputinAXP

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  10. May 14, 2012 #250 of 1922
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    Great...

    what is meant by the "new nonconsentual DTV contracts"?
     
  11. May 20, 2012 #251 of 1922
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    I guess its gone for now lol, this keeps up no one can buy any tv from any provider at all, they will price there selfs out of exits, or be so high no one can afford it.
     
  12. May 21, 2012 #252 of 1922
    Mojo Jojo

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    I noticed that on Channel 389, Sundance Channel, the following:

    This channel is no longer available.

    We hope you continue to enjoy the other great movie entertainment DISH offers as part of Blockbuster@Home like, MGM, HDNet Movies, Movieplex, Epix 1 & Epix 2.
     
  13. May 21, 2012 #253 of 1922
    SayWhat?

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    IFC's still on.
     
  14. May 21, 2012 #254 of 1922
    Mojo Jojo

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    IFC along with We TV and AMC are still on.

    Sundance Channel's contract may have ran out sooner due to being part of the Showtime package before being acquired by AMC Networks (formerly Rainbow Networks).
     
  15. May 21, 2012 #255 of 1922
    Paul Secic

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    Hopefully Sundance Channel is in HD when it comes back on, along with the rest of ENCORE suite.
     
  16. May 21, 2012 #256 of 1922
    Mojo Jojo

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    It would be nice for the channel to come back in HD; maybe they could get a deal to have IFC HD and WE HD (while keeping AMC HD of course).

    I think only 2 other Encores are in HD and would be most welcomed as we have the Encore Movie Pack.
     
  17. May 21, 2012 #257 of 1922
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    I highly doubt an agreement will be made to keep the AMC suite of programming. Be prepared to watch your AMC programs elsewhere.

    Hopefully we will get some good channel/HD upgrades in return for losing the AMC suite or programming.
     
  18. May 21, 2012 #258 of 1922
    phrelin

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    Unfortunately, this is a case of no news is bad news.

    It does appear that the two Charles in charge will force me to purchase from Amazon (streaming) the last two episodes of this season's "Mad Men" and "The Killing" and probably all ten episodes of "Hell on Wheels" beginning in August. I'll easily recover those costs by having dropped down to AT120. I may have to find and purchase the 10 episodes of "Copper" which will be aired on BBCA beginning in August.

    This will be an inconvenience. But Charlie Ergen's willfulness will force me, a 24-year Echostar/Dish customer and lazy senior citizen, to get used to streaming premium content from other sources. That's probably good for me, but not for Dish. I will learn what monthly costs I can avoid and still readily watch the relatively few shows I want to watch outside the AT-120 package.
     
  19. May 21, 2012 #259 of 1922
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    Great...
    I think more people do this than you realize. Since you have good internet speed, it should be a breeze...
    At some point I may do the same, I just need to bump up my dsl, or go to road runner and loose my landline. Lowering the base package will easily cover the extra cost.
     
  20. May 22, 2012 #260 of 1922
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    I wasn't referring to Mad Men.

    "New York, NY – February 13, 2012 – Last night, AMC’s mid-season premiere of “The Walking Dead” became the strongest telecast for any drama in basic cable history against key demos including 5.4 million adults 18-49 and 4.4 million adults 25-54. These results shatter the previous record, which was held by the series two premiere from October 16th with increases of +12% and +6% respectively. The show delivered 8.1 million viewers for its 9pm premiere and delivered 10.1 million viewers for the night (9pm premiere and 11pm and 12:30 am encores)."

    http://tvpressfeed.com/2012/02/the-w...llion-viewers/

    Why don't you try reading my posts before responding to them? Also maybe you should take your own advice and check your info before you accuse someone else of being wrong. 2 year old info? really?
     
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