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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by lparsons21, May 4, 2012.

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  1. Jul 7, 2012 #1341 of 1922
    James Long

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    If a company has not had retransmission disagreements they are not really trying. :D
     
  2. Jul 7, 2012 #1342 of 1922
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    How about answering a different version of your own question?

    Are you willing to accept that DISH should receive at least some of the blame for this situation? What percentage?
     
  3. Jul 7, 2012 #1343 of 1922
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    What fiasco?

    I don't consider a couple of channels getting dropped to be a 'fiasco' if that's what you're referring to.
     
  4. Jul 7, 2012 #1344 of 1922
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    I say no.
     
  5. Jul 7, 2012 #1345 of 1922
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    ...really? A content provider and a service provider failing to come to terms on the renewal of a retrans agreement, removing the channels, and engaging in a public spat...that isn't a fiasco? Umm...okay.

    Just to be clear: Coming to terms was the goal and both failed. That they did so in such spectacular fashion is a fiasco.
     
  6. Jul 7, 2012 #1346 of 1922
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    :lol: Based on what exactly?
     
  7. Jul 7, 2012 #1347 of 1922
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    AMC/Rainbow failed to be reasonable. It's just that simple.
     
  8. Jul 7, 2012 #1348 of 1922
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    Again, based on what exactly? You don't know exactly what was being offered by either party. Dish also pulled the channels and walked away. How can you say who was being more unreasonable?
     
  9. Jul 7, 2012 #1349 of 1922
    James Long

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    Well that depends ...
    Are you seeking a specific "sound bite" that you can quote me on? I believe I have already made my opinion clear.

    And before we go about assigning "blame" perhaps we should discuss if DISH not renewing carriage of AMC (and the sister stations) is a mistake. One does not assign blame when credit is due. If a provider presents a renewal deal that should not be accepted the right thing to do is not accept the deal.

    Perhaps we should assign AMC credit for getting their channel removed from 15% of their distribution households? Although that doesn't sound like something a channel would want credit for. One can give credit for a cost savings (I can get bonus pay for cost savings at work). It is harder to assign credit for millions of lost households.

    Not having AMC will not cost DISH millions of households. But it will save them millions of dollars. Is that a bad thing?

    Sometimes a carrier has to decide not to renew a channel. It isn't always a bad thing.

    DISH cannot legally carry the channels without a contract. What do you want them to do? Keep carrying channels without a contract and be pulled into court over it? When there is no contract there is no carriage. AMC did not want to be carried under DISH's terms, DISH did not want to carry AMC under AMC's terms. The carriage ended.
     
  10. Jul 7, 2012 #1350 of 1922
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    So, once again your answer is no. Just say that instead of trying to dance around it. Dish is the hero and AMC is entirely to blame in your eyes. That's the third chance you had to admit that at least some blame can be assigned to Dish.
     
  11. Jul 8, 2012 #1351 of 1922
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    Once again my answer is what I wrote, not what Hoosier205 claims it to be. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Jul 8, 2012 #1352 of 1922
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    Dish is my hero.
     
  13. Jul 8, 2012 #1353 of 1922
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    And now I am off to hop over some commercials!! :)
     
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    Great...
    Now, as your question...what? Apples to oranges. What in world does that have to do with this topic? I have no idea why there was a disagreement between the show creators and the network

    See post #1326

    SV gave you some insight.
     
  15. Jul 8, 2012 #1355 of 1922
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    Why should he have to admit to something hes already been on record saying MULTIPLE times in the course of this thread.

    If you have actually read this thread you would see that stewart and james have pretty much been the only ones laying down the facts from both sides of the fiasco.

    Lrn2Rd.
     
  16. Jul 8, 2012 #1356 of 1922
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    Which was blah blah blah no blah blah blah.
     
  17. Jul 8, 2012 #1357 of 1922
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    Great...



    consider changing your avatar
     
  18. Jul 8, 2012 #1358 of 1922
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    Haha...moving on now. If someone had assigned any amount of blame to Dish before...they'd have no trouble doing so again. Charlie has a long line at the chopping block.
     
  19. Jul 8, 2012 #1359 of 1922
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    Unless there getting tired of someone twisting there every word around ;)
     
  20. Jul 8, 2012 #1360 of 1922
    Hoosier205

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    If by that you mean giving them three opportunities. :)
     
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