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DISH drops Court Tv

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by trido, Jan 1, 2007.

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  1. Jan 7, 2007 #141 of 287
    Mike D-CO5

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    James you keep forgetting the $5.00 increase for Hd plat. subs , soon to be just AEP + hd pack. That is a $10.00 increase for AEP subs with hd pack. THat is more than Directv subs. I guess Dish felt it was better to put the biggest increase on their high subs rather than spread it out over all their programming packs like Directv did.
     
  2. Jan 7, 2007 #142 of 287
    Mike D-CO5

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    Duplicate post
     
  3. Jan 7, 2007 #143 of 287
    Stewart Vernon

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    Ok, that made me laugh... You retracted a duplicate post, yet I have seen the same "duplicate" post in a bunch of threads all over the forum... :)
     
  4. Jan 7, 2007 #144 of 287
    James Long

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    How can anyone forget with you practically spamming the forum with it. :)
    And yet DirecTV TCPremier+HD is at $109.99 before their 2007 price increase.
     
  5. Jan 7, 2007 #145 of 287
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    I think because everyone who is NOT affected by it is glad they aren't and due to "class envy" like the fact that the "big spenders" no longer get an incentive to get the big package!

    But anyway, people have to remember that the reason the HD Platinum pack was $99.99 and not $104.99 was not because they wanted to give the discount, but because they wanted to stay under the magic $100 mark

    Though everyone denies it, more people are likely to buy something for $99.99 than they are for $100. This has been proven in marketing studies over and over and over again. No matter how logical people are, most say something marked at $99.99 costs $99 dollars. The psychological difference between $99 and $100 is astronomical.

    So... once you break the $100 barrier, it really doesn't matter if it's $105 or $109.99. Most consumers (who don't have to see the price increase from $99) will not care too much between the two.

    So, thogh I do feel for Mike and this kind of price increase makes me thing a fifth and sixth time about getting the everything+hd pack, marketing wise, it makes sense.

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  6. Jan 7, 2007 #146 of 287
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    As of this moment there are 65 Sirius channels on Dish.

    See ya
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  7. Jan 7, 2007 #147 of 287
    James Long

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    One of them must be missing from my EPG - unless you are counting the CH 156/919 SIRIUS Music Information promotional channel.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2007 #148 of 287
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    AT150-AT180-AT250 and with the new proposed increase will be a $13 increase with over 100 channels added in 6 years. I knew it was something like that. Thanks all who provided the data and a trip down memory lane.

    Someone with the TWC in their signature nit picking my facts. That doesn't surprise me.

    Time Warner Cable/Turner Broadcasting/CourtTV are all one big happy family.:nono2:

    I love when one big company tries to bully a smaller company and make a buck no matter what it does. All I wanted was to hear CourtTV's side and instead they try to shove there parent company services down my throat or a company they must have great financial interest in.:mad:

    I think Charlie could take Philip!:eek2:
     
  9. Jan 7, 2007 #149 of 287
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    If you want to say Dish added over 100 channels and all that, fine whatever. They did, but I don't count shopping, PI and Sirius, as 'real' channel additions. Take away them, and you have a lot less. If you want to count them, be my guest, I count actual audio/video channels, that pay to be carried, not just take up space. In your first post I thought you were talking about AT100 not AT150, yes AT150 has seen many real channel additions over the past few years, not close to 100, but enough.

    And yes, I am a TWC supporter, I had no idea that Court TV was part of TWX family until this thread, but I couldn't care less. I like the cable division of TWX, I don't watch CNN, don't use anything AOL related, etc. The fact TWX now owns Court TV is irrelevant, I just hope it negatively impacts Dish, not because I like TWC, but because of my personal thoughts on Chuckie.
     
  10. Jan 8, 2007 #150 of 287
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    I watch Pentagon Channel, Documentary Channel, RFD TV and Classic Arts Showcase at least once a week. I watch CAS EVERY day (or at least have it on as I do something around the house) for at least a few minutes a day EVERY day. Are you saying these channels I watch every week aren't real channels because they happen to fit into the federally mandated PI catagory, and channels like Court TV, Bloomberg, Fine Living, DIY and Nick Toons which I NEVER EVER watch are real channels? I certainly don't see it that way! I jumped for joy when CAS was added. I was very excited to see the Documentary Channel.

    I no longer listen to Sirius channels because of the annoying stream jockeys (and will never subscribe to the service for the same reason) but for about a 6 month period, whenever I wasn't watching TV the Standard Time channel was on in my house. So I counted that channel as a favorite!

    Some of the channels you call shopping channels (which I didn't count) really have quite a bit of entertainment. The Water Channel, The Men's Channel (now Men's Outdoor Recreation) have real honest to goodness programming for 15 or more hours a day which is more than one can say for PAX/"i" (channel 181). I know "no one" watches these shopping channels because "no one" spends about $11 Billion a year on these channels' products annually.

    So your definition of a "real" channel is WAY too narrow for me.

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  11. Jan 8, 2007 #151 of 287
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    You are correct... 64. I counted "The Who" channel and "The Bridge" as two channels. It's only one channel with special programming now.

    Tony
     
  12. Jan 8, 2007 #152 of 287
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    That's interesting, and I have heard that before... but I have always been the opposite, psychologically.

    When I see $99.99 as a price, I see 4 big nines! When I see $100.00, I see a lot of zeroes and a one... so while they are only a penny apart and I can do the math to verify that ;) Psychologically, my initial reaction to a $99.99 price tag is that it costs too much... but when I see $100, it "seems" like less to me at first glance.

    I guess I'm the exception that proves the rule.
     
  13. Jan 8, 2007 #153 of 287
    James Long

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    It is more common to see it as over $100 and under $100 - although once one adds in the "taxes, etc" the shock of it being over $100 really sets in. It is a good advertising price point --- which is why there is no DishHD Platinum for $109.99 on the new price list (even though that is the effective price). Still pushing a below $100 pricetag.

    When I buy a $9.99 CD/DVD and end up paying $15 to get it online the shock sets in too. :)
     
  14. Jan 8, 2007 #154 of 287
    Stewart Vernon

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    That reminds me of all the fast food commercials that brag about getting "change back from a dollar" when you buy from their 99-cent menu... Unless you live somewhere that doesn't tax fast-food, there's no way you get any change back from that purchase with only a dollar!
     
  15. Jan 8, 2007 #155 of 287
    Stewart Vernon

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    You know... as an aside... Perhaps CourtTV can provide coverage of the negotiations between them and Dish for carriage of the channel?

    That would be like turning the camera towards the mirror and getting the infinite regression image... CourtTV could cover the trial about how they are not on Dish!
     
  16. Jan 8, 2007 #156 of 287
    James Long

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    They could always cover the issue on CNN where E* subs might actually see it. :)
     
  17. Jan 8, 2007 #157 of 287
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    Thankyou Tony for being understanding and offering a good rational defense for my posts. As James loves to point out endless times, I have posted about the $10.00 increase as I felt outraged about it. I expected better from Dish and the extra fees charged when you try to down grade like the dvr fees PER RECEIVER and the hd enabeling fees if you don't want the hd pack PER RECEIVER make Dish a bad deal right now. They reeled us in with the good pricing last year with the AEP + hd + locals for 104.99 . A very good deal. NOw they have jerked the discount and hiked the price . I feel like the rug was jerked out from under me by Dish in this price increase. But as James has tried to wave his DISH pom -poms endless times when I find any fault with their practices I will stop posting about it .

    Thanks again. :)
     
  18. Jan 8, 2007 #158 of 287
    James Long

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    Apparently not. :D

    I do wish we could keep this thread about CourtTV instead of duplicating posts from the price increase thread but I suppose the discussions cross over and I've been as guilty as any for continuing pricing issues here.
     
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    Thank you James. I STILL want my CourtTV back.
     
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    Here is some fodder to keep this on topic...

    RUMOR ALERT: Court TV will be replaced by A&E Crime & Investigation Network if Court TV does not settle by the end of the month. CI is a new network to the US but it has been around in England and Australia for a while. This is an unsubstanciated rumor but it would explain Charlie's statement yesterday about the dealings with Court TV/Turner. Remember this is how Oxygen ended up on AT120 and LMN was bumped up to AT180!

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