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DISH Files for permission to provide distant networks (Court Tracking)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by runner861, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. psdstu

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    This is the latest Email response I have received from DISH when I asked about Distant Networks in the short markets......

    I was advised by a GM in our programming Dept. that we currently have not recovered our distant networks back, but if we do we will be focused on completing markets where technically possible.

    Thank you,

    Brian

    Makes you wonder............:rolleyes:
     
  2. runner861

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    The answer sounds like the doublespeak say nothing answers you get when you email the bank. It is unclear from the answer if the person is even aware that the injunction has been lifted. Did you email the person back and confront him/her with the fact that the injunction has been lifted? If you do that, you at least possibly can force a more specific answer, although I somehow doubt you will get a better answer. Perhaps someone should bring it up at a Charlie chat, although those questions may be heavily screened.
     
  3. James Long

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    Soon has arrived!

    Channels Now Available
    8567 WJHG (7 Local) PANAMA CITY, FL (NBC) SV* 110° 4s7 (NW Florida) SD Dothan, AL market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    9381 KFXF (7 Local) FAIRBANKS, AK (FOX) SV* 110° 26s46 (Alaska) SD Juneau, AK market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    5262 WVLA (33 HD Local) BATON ROUGE, LA (NBC) SV* 129° 9s42 (South Mississippi) HD Lafayette, LA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    8486 WVLA (33 Local) BATON ROUGE, LA (NBC) SV* 110° 25s12 (SE Louisiana) SD Lafayette, LA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    5270 KSAT (3 HD Local) SAN ANTONIO, TX (ABC) SV* 110° 25s22 (SC Texas) HD Larado, TX market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    8121 KSAT (3 Local) SAN ANTONIO, TX (ABC) SV* 110° 23s22 (SC Texas) SD Larado, TX market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    5270 KEYT (3 HD Local) SANTA BARBARA, CA (ABC) SV* 129° 15s32 (WC California) HD Monterey, CA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    9186 KEYT (3 Local) SANTA BARBARA, CA (ABC) SV* 110° 23s42 (Central California) SD Monterey, CA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    7920 WTVY (4 Local) DOTHAN, AL (CBS) SV* 110° 4s7 (NW Florida) SD Panama City, FL market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    5260 WICS (20 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, IL (ABC) SV* 129° 12s30 (East Missouri) HD Terre Haute, IN market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    7900 WICS (20 Local) SPRINGFIELD, IL (ABC) SV* 119° 3sB13 (Springfield) SD Terre Haute, IN market Hidden - AVAILABLE
     
  4. vtjman

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    Are there any more that turned on? I am looking for WTXL Tallahassee for the Albany, GA DMA.
     
  5. James Long

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    That one (Channel 7666) is still not available. :(
     
  6. vtjman

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    That is the ONLY channel not made available???? That is not a good sign.
     
  7. James Long

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    It may be a simple mistake. DISH has already made a couple of corrections after the big uplink.
     
  8. bigrich

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    Dish Uplinked WICS Springfield for Terre Haute because WICS has another full power station (WICD) Danville, IL that simulcasts all but the local news from WICS. WICD is easy received in Terre Haute proper and before digital claimed a Grade B signal there.
     
  9. psdstu

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    Thats good news about all the Short markets!!!

    Lets hope before to long we can go from SD to HD..... in these Markets!

    Stu
     
  10. James Long

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    Four of those are HD ... three are SD only.
     
  11. tsmacro

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    East...

    Any idea if this abc channel was made available to the whole Terre Haute DMA or just to the part that's in IL?
     
  12. tsmacro

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    And to answer my own question I just punched in a zip code from Terre Haute into dishnetwork.com and it lists abc channel 20 as available there, so I guess it's available on both sides of the IN/IL border. I'm actually surprised they updated their website so quickly. Now if someone would just explain to them that the Superstations haven't been WB/UPN for years now.......:sure:
     
  13. runner861

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    The court has appointed Douglas McDonald as special master. His appointment was jointly requested by all parties. He is an expert in copyright law and is admitted in Florida, California, and the District of Columbia.

    The court has stated in its order that the parties have 30 days to submit a proposal regarding the duties of the special master. This will be the interesting part of the whole restoration of the distant networks. What type of investigation/monitoring will the special master conduct? What type of reports will he submit to the court?
     
  14. James Long

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    I don't expect much investigation ... just monitoring. Someone who will look over the reports that are already part of having a distants service for anomalies. Unless/until DISH starts a nationwide distants service there isn't much to oversee. I expect that the plaintiffs will want a certain level of investigation to verify a percentage of accounts each report. And if/when DISH starts a nationwide distants service investigating the validity of who is being served is key. That is what DISH violated the last time around ... too many accounts receiving distants that were not eligible.

    With locals available in 100% of markets national distants would be pretty much limited to RV accounts. Short market distants would be the main service offering. Those should be pretty easy to manage and oversee.

    I expect most of the reporting to the court to be done under seal, unless it does not contain any confidential information. Even subscriber counts could be considered confidential. We may just see one page reports from the master stating that he has received and verified the required information from DISH and has found that DISH remains in compliance for whatever time period the report covers. Or we could see more. I don't expect much more. The whole point of having a Special Master is to have them monitor compliance instead of the court. All the court needs to know is if compliance continues.
     
  15. runner861

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    Most likely that is the way that things will end up. It is within the court's discretion to accept filings under seal or not. Of course, if Dish does go beyond the short markets, then it will be dealing with waivers. The special master may want to examine the waiver process and report back on that.

    As an aside, the AAD site is still working and distants are still available. However, the AAD website has been updated to delete references to the court order preventing Dish from offering distants. At least on the surface, at this time it appears that both Dish and AAD are acting as if the AAD service will continue, and Dish will limit itself to offering neighboring distants other than the AAD stations. Of course, time will tell.
     
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    James Long

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    RasputinAXP

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    Huh. So NJN's WNJB is in HD now, but they haven't bothered duplicating it for South Jersey's WNJS?? *sigh*
     
  18. tpwillie

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    I don't understand why Dish gave us a local channel from Springfield, IL. It is over 100 miles from us and in a different time zone. Indianapolis is only about 50 miles away, in our state and time zone, but not available. It just seems really stupid.

    Lou
     
  19. RasputinAXP

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    Dish doesn't give you your locals to tweak you, it gives you what the Fed says your DMA is.
     
  20. tpwillie

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    If the Feds say this is what has to be given to us, why is Directtv now offering ABC from Indianapolis? They just started to advertise they now offer ABC in this area. Why would they be different?

    Thanks,

    Lou
     

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