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Dish Needs to Get Moving on 3D

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Michael1, May 18, 2011.

What is your current interest in 3D?

  1. I own a 3DTV and am anxious for more 3D content

    28 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. I don't yet own a 3DTV but am planning to buy within the next 6 months

    11 vote(s)
    9.8%
  3. I own a 3DTV but am not really interested in 3D content

    19 vote(s)
    17.0%
  4. I don't own a 3DTV and am not planning on investing in 3D in the near future

    54 vote(s)
    48.2%
  1. Stewart Vernon

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    To be fair... I don't care about the Olympics in 2D except for the basketball during the summer Olympics.

    The Olympics are just one of those largely "meh" things to be no matter how many "D"s you add.
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    I haven't watched a single minute of them since the early 70s. On any channel, in any format.
     
  3. evnow

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    Who knows. As I wrote earlier every non-bottom of the barrel hardware being made is now 3D - TVs, Projectors, HT recievers, Blu-ray players etc etc. Anyone who read about the just concluded CEDIA knows what I'm talking about. Content ofcourse, is still scarce.

    The way I look at it - I enjoy 3D (whatever little I've seen). So, I'd like to get as much 3D programming as possible. Infact, if as many doubters here argue, 3D will not survive - I definitely want to watch it before it "goes away".
     
  4. tampa8

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    Lmao......

    You are correct about many TV's that are not bargain basement are being made with 3D. That is a plus for those hoping it survives. Though they made BetaMax after the medium was dead..... :)
     
  5. evnow

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    One of the reasons I'm optimistic about 3D is that there is no format war (though the glasses are a bit of a mess at the moment). HDMI 1.4a has been formalized and everyone is supporting it in this year's products.

    Don't know how many of you frequent AVSForum but, there are threads there where some are even asking is there is anything for 2D at Cedia this year.

    If we remember HDTV introduction - people had to pay 3 to 4 times SD to get HDTVs - and yet there was little original programming. Now the 3D hardware is available at almost no premium.
     
  6. tampa8

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    That was a good move by the industry. But from reading articles, many have a 3d set simply because of that, or they got the best set possible which happen to have 3D, but have no interest in 3D. I think the comparison to HD hurts 3D because HD was a vast improvement to watching anything from begining to end. 3D really does not add to a regular program for instance, other than special effects that might be used. In fact, what 3D I have seen, people look a little out of place in relation to the backround. Then there's the problem of many getting headaches or eye strain, and those that just can't see 3D. (I do get eye fatigue, but it takes awhile) It can work, I felt Avatar gained some by being in 3D, but overall maybe it just needs alot more medium for us to decide.

    (I do go to Avsforums - same name there)
     
  7. evnow

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    That is how a lot of HD started, though people bought "flat panels", even though more expensive, just because they are flat and thin.

    That is how surround sound started.
     
  8. evnow

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    Ofcourse, those who aren't going to care about ESPN 3D aren't probably going to care about Olympics either.
     
  9. 356B

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    When I went shopping for a new TV the one I choose as being the best possible choice for me just happened to have 3D......Interestingly enough it was a unexpected fun experience for friends and fam. Do I sit around pining for more 3D? Hell no......I do know this, the 3D demise seems to have been greatly over estimated.
    Sure 3D TV's are selling for less, everything is...it's buyers market...on everything....except gold and gas.......
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    Apples and oranges.

    I watch a lot of ESPNHD and ESPN2HD (would watch ESPNUHD if Dish ever gets it)... I watch a lot of sports... I just don't care that much about 3D sports.

    The Olympics, I don't even care about in 2D... so it's a different thing.
     
  11. evnow

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    Even gas is selling a lot less to our household, ever since I got my electric car, Leaf ;-)

    BTW, last weekend's top grosser ? Yes, a 3D re-issue of a 17 year old movie.

     
  12. Inkosaurus

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    Lion Kings a classic though, i bet alot of those sells are just people wanting to see that movie on the big screen again regardless of it being 3d or not.

    Its not like the fact that it being 3d is generating the sells, its the fact thats its a great movie for all ages. I saw that movie as a child in theaters and loved it, im not passing up on the chance to take my son to see it as well and i bet alot of the other mid 20 year olds like myself feel the same about it.


    I dont really think that movie is a good example of why 3d is going to stick around.

    Now if we applied the reverse, you know Re-Release a movie with 3D on it how ever instead of it being a classic make it a piece of garbage movie. Lets see how many sells it gets.
    And even then that wouldnt be an accurate metric either, since theres people out there that really love the "Its so bad its good" movies lol.
     
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  14. HobbyTalk

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    High sales of Disney DVD releases is nothing new. They purposely hold back on releasing DVD for many years. Then when they are released again they get huge sales because they have not been available. Same thing for the movies, they like to rerelease them so that there is a new generation of kids that haven't seen it yet.

    BTW, reviews of the 3D conversion say it is pretty bad.
     
  15. FarmerBob

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    +1
     
  16. sigma1914

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    But people are choosing the 3D version at a huge ratio. Of the $29.3 million in earning, 3D presentations accounted for 92 percent of the gross. Also, real viewers are happy with the 3D conversion...look on AVS.
     
  17. HobbyTalk

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    Pretty easy to skew the numbers when they are limiting the 3D version to a 2 week run.

    It earned ~$12K per screen this past weekend.

    In 1994 it was released on 66 screens earning $1.8M the first weekend. That is $27K per screen and that is in 1994 dollars.
     
  18. evnow

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    Well, life is too short to wonder what the masses will do or argue that Dish should lead, not follow the masses.

    I just signed up for Directv. So ends my 12 years of Dish service. I've always rooted for the underdog - so hope Dish does well and provides needed competition to Directv.
     
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  20. RAD

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    Dripping...

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