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Dish Needs to Get Moving on 3D

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Michael1, May 18, 2011.

What is your current interest in 3D?

  1. I own a 3DTV and am anxious for more 3D content

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    25.0%
  2. I don't yet own a 3DTV but am planning to buy within the next 6 months

    11 vote(s)
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  3. I own a 3DTV but am not really interested in 3D content

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  4. I don't own a 3DTV and am not planning on investing in 3D in the near future

    54 vote(s)
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  1. BillJ

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    I get a newsletter with reviews of high-end audio and video equipment. They recommend buying 3D displays only because they give the best 2D images. They will compare 3D experiences of one display vs another but I have yet to see any of their reviewers say 3D is more than a gimmick which isn't likely to ever be universally popular.

    Seperately I've read business stories noting 3D hasn't been the savior the movie industry expected for theaters either. I would agree. Never been overly impressed with the big screen presentations I've seen.
     
  2. Laxguy

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    No, it's not a movie industry savior, but it's likely to become universally adopted over time.

    Similar things were said about talking movies, color TV, stereo, digital media, automobiles, etc.
     
  3. TBoneit

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    Movies are not SD. a Movie on film has a higher effective resolution than HD, If movies had resolution rating.
     
  4. Jim5506

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    Should have said 2D instead of SD.
     
  5. Stewart Vernon

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    These bad analogies keep being retread. You cannot compare 3D to any of those technologies because ALL of those technologies became adopted over time.

    3D, however, has thus far been resoundingly rejected multiple times in history! It keeps coming back, but it has been here before... so until 3D comes and stays around... it cannot be compared to the inevitable adoption of other things like color or talkies.
     
  6. phrelin

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    I agree that it isn't something that is simply going to become adopted, mostly because we don't have the needed technology at an affordable price. Until there is a standard glasses-free 3D TV under $1,000 (today's dollars), we just won't see much happen.

    But when one becomes available for under $2,500 my guess is will start seeing more programming sources, though I suspect it will come from streaming sources.
     
  7. HDlover

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    They do, most theaters now have digital projectors that show 4K with higher color depth. That is why I watch 3D movies at the theater.
     
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    My LG DM2350 TV does a great job of converting on the fly. As good as a something shot in 3D, of course not. There is no pop-out.
     
  9. Laxguy

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    Talk to me in 15 years!! ;)

    Point made, point taken; not a great analogy. But not horrible, either!
     
  10. James Long

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    The point being that people have been playing with 3D for a long time (90+ years). Modern technology (especially glasses free) will help make it a generally acceptable process and not just a recurring fad.

    And then (for the purposes of this thread) DISH and other distributors can be concerned with the transmission of 3D over their systems. Right now there are very few "channels" in existence. I don't see anything wrong with offering 3D content ... but I don't see it as a requirement to offer 3D programming (beyond what is occasionally transmitted on currently carried channels).
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah... I'm not "anti" 3D even though I have very little interest in it myself. I would be fine if it became more "standard" over time IF technology continues to improve and especially if they can do it well without glasses at some point.

    As James stated, though, the "need" for Dish to go "all in" on 3D is probably years away given the state of the current technology and frankly the lack of 3D content out there at this point.
     
  12. Davenlr

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    That and they need to figure out a way to send both 2D and 3D on the same channel, as none of the players have the bandwidth to duplicate SD, HD, and 3D on one system without severely shortchanging the channel counts.
     
  13. Laxguy

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    Good points. And none of my posts are meant to confirm or deny the basic premise of the thread title. :sure:
     
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  15. inazsully

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    They have indeed been playing with 3D for a long time and I think that a combination of several technological advances have made 3D a viable potential on the near horizon. Granted it is still in the infancy stages but the advances in flat screen technology along with the wide spread acceptance of HD along with the arrival of OLED and 4K screens is the forecaster of 3D's future. Maybe it will flop but I think the youngest generation will see it as everyday normal, probably to be replaced by holographic displays in their lifetimes.
     
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    The lack of industry standards for broadcasting 3DTV programs or transmitting three-dimensional content to mobile devices is hampering the adoption of 3D viewing in the home, according to Insight Media. "When you put a Blu-ray disc into your 3D Blu-ray player, it automatically detects it," Insight Media President Chris Chinnock said. "The problem in the broadcast realm is that's not there. There's no system detection."

    Home Media Magazine (3/28)     
    http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3d/insight-media-standards-still-way-broadcast-3d-26810
     
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    You may be right about 3D flopping but the TV manufactures are pumping out new 3D TV's and they show no signs of letting up. In 2012 Panasonic's top four plasma models are 3D. That would include the UT/ST/GT/VT line, all of which also provide a better 2D picture than their straight 2D displays. Every single manufacture (Sony, Samsung, Toshiba, Vizio, Mitsibishi, LG and more) includes 3D in their top tier displays. In today's paper there is a Sharp Blu-Ray 3D player for $99. There are many reasons that 3D has not taken off yet but it looks like the powers that be still plan on making 3D SOP in the near future.
     
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    "CBS Sunday Morning" did a piece on 3D movies this morning. The conclusion by the reporter was... follow the money. "Titanic" is coming, "Star Wars" has been, could "Chariots of Fire" be next?
     
  20. Apr 1, 2012 #420 of 616
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    No doubt that 3D technology has a long long way to go to be considered main stream. The quality of the content is all over the map and the actual lack of content is a problem. Glasses are getting more comfortable and more affordable but you still have to wear them and that's a problem to a lot of people. Passive and active systems are not compatible and some brands just do a better job of presenting a solid good quality 3D picture. Lots of hurdles yet to overcome but like was said earlier, Follow the money. That money says that 3D will become main stream, especially if you can't buy a 50+" TV by 2014 that's not 3D.
     

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