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DISH Network Becomes First and Only TV Provider to Offer 200 National HD Channels

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by James Long, Apr 19, 2010.

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  1. phrelin

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    As long as we keep in mind that nobody has anywhere near that many channels of active HD content at any one time. In fact, it appears to me that a Dish HD customer with the AEP/HD+Platinum using a 622 would be lucky on any typical Wednesday afternoon to find more than 80 HD shows.

    But it is a great list if you like lists in the abstract. I liken these lists to roulette where (using the American wheel) you have 38 potential winning numbers, but only 1 of the 38 is a real winning number at the end of any spin.

    The only thing important to me is that Dish still doesn't have in HD AMC, IFC, PBS and The CW. But apparently, the 200-HD-channel bragging rights is an issue for some.
     
  2. James Long

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    With thanks to the work of others (primarily Adam Richey) I've been looking at what DISH has and what is left in SD ... which is probably a better definition than some arbitrary count. I've come up with 30 regular/premium HD feeds that are available where DISH carries the SD feed, plus five more sports feeds that are missing. I'm not including channels DISH doesn't carry in SD. This is conversion, not channel additions.

    Yet another list
     
  3. Henry

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    FWIW ... DMA 18 (Denver) gets The CW in HD on E*. Maybe it's an affiliate thing.
     
  4. sigma1914

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    Nice work. All HD RSNs are just game only HD? :eek2:
     
  5. James Long

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    Unfortunately ... and because of this there are a lot of "missing games" reported where if the game isn't on the main network HD feed (such as being on FS Indiana instead of FS Midwest) it won't be carried.
     
  6. sigma1914

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    I see...I knew some were, but never knew all were part time.
     
  7. phrelin

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    It's an affiliate ownership thing and contract negotiations. We got our MyNetworkTV affiliate when Dish wanted a contract for one of the big 4 networks in another DMA. Gotta love this system.:rolleyes:
     
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    We get it when the technicians at KWGN decides to air the show in HD and in 16x9 format. Since KDVR (the Denver Fox affiliate) created a duopoly with KWGN, HD broadcasts on KWGN have not been consistent. That is, a number of HD shows are not shown in 16x9 format, or air partially in 16x9 format when they are broadcast. Most notably "Legend of the Seeker" which airs in 16x9 on WGN-America, but on KWGN it airs 16x9 once in a while. The same goes for "Supernatural" and "Smallville"; though they seem to to air 16x9 in HD about 90% of the time compared to "Legend of the Seeker" about 10% of the time.

    At least the other duopoly in Denver KUSA (NBC) does a much better job with KTVD (MyTV) and airs the HD shows in 16x9 format.
     
  9. Henry

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    I guess my point was that Dish indeed delivers an HD signal for The CW here in Denver ... that is, whenever the affiliate decides that's what they want to give us. ;)

    Ergo, any issue we may have with it are the domain of Ch 2 and parent (Ch 31), not Dish.
     
  10. Michael P

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    It's not even that well defined. I get 2 RSN's: Fox Sports Ohio and Sports Time Ohio. Unlike the Midwest vs. Indiana example above, there is no "main feed" per se. FSN Ohio has 3 subdivisions for Cleveland, Columbus,and Cincinnati. However the only difference seems to be with the Cincinnati vs. Cleveland baseball teams. Now that STO has the Indians it should have freed up the FSN schedule. But none of this matters in the world of E*. If too many pro games are on at the same time some games will be SD only on E*, even though you can plainly see the "STO HD" logo on screen. When Hockey, Basketball and now Baseball overlap seasons it strains E*'s HD capacity even more.

    While E* may have more HD capacity for full-time entertainment channels, they don't use that capacity for sports (Except for the "Big 10 Network" which is a pet peeve of mine). How could a regional collegiate network get the clout for a 24/7 HD feed (and multiple "alt feeds" when needed) when the Pro sports RSN's can't get the same coverage?
     
  11. James Long

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    DirecTV has 22 full time RSNs and (per Sixto) at peak uses additional 25 part time channels for sports ... 47 games? That is just overwhelming.

    It just shows where the priorities are. DISH's 102 24x7 HD channels (before PPV and sports) vs DirecTV's 71 (before PPV and sports). DirecTV could have used some of that RSN bandwidth for other channels ... and pretty much do the same thing as DISH (102 24x7 HD channels and not much RSN coverage). The DirecTV May additions will add 19 non-sports/PPV channels (102 to 90!) but those RSNs will still keep DirecTV looking good.

    Finding six transponders to give full RSN coverage won't be easy for DISH. They could go full time east vs west arcs or put RSNs on spotbeams if they covered the right areas. I'd like to see more effort made in that area.

    But I am happy to see the 102 other HD channels (and more to come). It is a trade off.
    I've made my choice of providers and can understand why someone would choose the other one.
     
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    I too would like to see The CW in HD (didn't know it was due to local affiliate). Anyway, am very much enjoying Epix though!
     
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    Take That Dish! DirecTV to launch 30 new HD channels in May

    DirecTV finally steps up to the plate with more HD. Here’s a list of what’s coming:
    *CSN Bay Area HD
    *CSN California HD
    Encore HD East
    ESPNU HD
    *FSN Florida HD
    GolTV HD
    Hallmark Channel HD
    Hallmark Movie Channel HD
    HBO2 East HD
    HBO Zone HD
    Lifetime HD
    MSNBC HD
    Showtime Beyond HD
    Showtime Next HD
    Showtime Women HD
    STARZ Cinema HD
    STARZ In Black HD
    Telefutura HD West
    TMC Xtra HD East
    Travel Channel [...]
     
  14. Paul Secic

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    I thought MYNetworkTV bit the dust in 09. Thats how much I watch Locals.:lol::lol:
     
  15. Paul Secic

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    I agree EPIXHD, RETROPLEXHD and INDIEPLEXHD are great additions!
     
  16. Conway

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    You notice the guide data hasn't been correct on EPiX. Yesterday it said Pink Panther 2 but it was showing Crank 2.. seen that more than once lately.
     
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    harsh

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    This isn't the first time they jumped the gun on an announcement regarding fruits of their new satellite. Twice so far they've had to modify their website to account for the fact that it isn't ready yet.

    It is interesting to note so many of them are premium channels or PPV. Of the 30, only six or seven are part of base packages.
     
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    James Long

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    9 are in Choice Ultimate or below ... but who is counting? :lol:


    (Would base packages include AEP and Premier? Probably. That would bring the 9 new movie channels into play. Plus three RSN channels in Premier are being upgraded to 24/7.)
     
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    Henry

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    Yep, I set a timer to record Iron Man, got Indiana Jones instead. Can't go by the EPG. Until they fix it, I'll get my programming info from the EPIX web site.
     
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    RasputinAXP

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    Not that they're similar, but at least it was Indiana Jones... :)
     

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