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DISH Network CENSORING Free Preview

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by boba, Mar 17, 2006.

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  1. cboylan3

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    fiirst off, boba, they are right, it's not censorship.

    2nd, why does everyone assume and paint this picture that the unedited movie channels are only sex, violence and bad language. That is completely untrue. There are MANY quality movies out there that families can watch. Heck, every friday nite dish has 5 or 6 "Family" labeled movies on their PPV.

    3rd, whats with all the bashing and negativity towards "family pack" viewers?

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    - sorry, I dont follow the logic here, when AT60 was the minimal package where the free previews were given to them? yes they were. Also, according to this, regardless of what package I had (save the everything package) if I didn't have HBO because I "either cannot afford or already made the conscious choice not to buy", then I should not get the free previews either.:nono:
     
  2. Fifty Caliber

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    Yeah, I hear what you are saying. Which is why I feel any free preview should be opt-in only.

    E*, D*, G*, and (gasp) cable will from time to time do free previews to help sell certain channels. It's all marketing, by showing you what's on HBO for a few days, they hope you will subscribe to an HBO package, which of course makes them more money. If the free preview required the "Family Tier" subscriber to call in to get it, then the CSR could provide a disclaimer saying that the content on these channels might be offensive.

    This would be a win-win situation for all involved. Those who didn't want the HBO three day pass, would not call in and thus would not get it. Those who decided they did want to see the free preview would call in and get a disclaimer. Some of the people who called in to get the preview might decide to upgrade their programing, which is what the provider wants.
     
  3. cboylan3

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    I like the opt-in idea
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

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    Agreed... not so much with Cinemax, but HBO does have lots of family programming. Problem is, they also have lots of adult programming... and unlike PPV where you only pay directly for the movie you want to watch, you either have HBO turned on or off... so for folks that want to limit the adult content coming into their house, they have no choice but to not get HBO. As others have suggested, perhaps HBO would consider making HBO Family available to the family pack viewers as a standalone channel as a compromise for those viewers.

    I can't speak for everyone... but I've been applauding Family Pack customers who wanted to only pay for and watch family programming. I like more variety myself, BUT there are lots of times I just want something family-friendly to watch... so I'm all for the package for people who want to only watch family programming.

    I was just pointing out the very logical concept that IF a customer wanted Family Pack because of family programming... then I seriously doubt that customer would appreciate any free preview that contained adult content being provided into his home.

    In this case I was not referring to the Family Pack. Presumably those customers just want family programming, and we covered that already.

    I was talking about people who have otherwise non-qualifying programming... Like folks who just subscribe to the HD pack or just locals or just a sports package or something. Those folks have spoken with their wallet that they prefer less channels with a lower bill and those customers are the least likely to pay to get HBO/MAX or whatever after seeing a free preview.

    If I'm subscribing to AT60, which is the minimal qualifying package, then it makes sense that I might want HBO/MAX if I saw a preview and liked it... because I might just not want the AT120 or AT180 extra channels... But someone just subscribing to locals is doing so because they wanted to save money, and that guy isn't likely to change his mind just because of a free preview so why give it to him? The point is to advertise to your market that might be interested... and the basic-package customers have already expressed their disinterest by the configuration they have chosen.

    Not meant to offend anyone... but it just makes sense to me. No point in the Hummer or BWM dealership calling me with offers when all I ever buy is the Ford Escort. Maybe if I buy a Mustang or something more expensive they might have reason to call me... but until then, they should wait for me to walk onto the lot before they start spending money to entice me.
     
  5. tsmacro

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    Funny story regarding PPV and family programming. While working yesterday a woman called me to complain about "The 40 Year Old Virgin". She says I ordered that movie and it's "nasty". "The rating didn't say anything about it being like that!" Well i'm trying not to laugh as I give her the correct number to call, after all I work for a retailer that sells Dish not Dish itself. All I could imagine was this little old lady (she sounded older anyway) who saw the title of the movie and thought it must be about this "nice man with good strong morals" who waited until he got married to have sex even though it took until he was forty years old!:lol: That and obviously she didn't understand that when a movie says it's "unrated" that usually means it's "nastier":eek2: than an R rated movie. :lol:
     
  6. music_beans

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    What about HBO Family?
     
  7. cboylan3

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    Yes, thats a logical concept. However, I look at it differently. Everyone is focusing on the adult content. I'm looking at it as, if HBO (i'm just using them becuase of their free preview this weekend, but it could be any uncut movie provider) can show me that they show enough movies my family can sit down and enjoy, I may consider the $13/month if I feel its worth it.

    I'm sure there are many that feel as you have described, but I also feel there are many that look at it as I do.

    I like that opt-in idea someone suggested


    Was not aware those type of packages were available. I agree with you on that.
     
  8. CCarncross

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    How many threads are you going to state this in?
     
  9. Slamminc11

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    oaky, so now that it is over, can we shut this stupid thread down? You didn't get it, so deal with it, and oh yeah, by the way, when showtime's free preview comes at the end of this month, guess what!?! You ain't getting that either!!!!!!!
     
  10. CCarncross

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    I didnt suggest or say you couldnt. I just pointed it out because its considered bad forum etiquette to post the same info in multiple forums until at least you have given people an adequate chance to respond to your 1st posting....it makes it even worse when you're just complaining to complain...
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    If you like movies so much, why aren't you subscribing to some of the movie channels?

    Just asking.
     
  12. Opynion

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    That's right, at least they should have let the people on Family pack to see the free preview of HBO Family, at least; and when the Free preview of Starz comes up, they should let the subs of the Fam-Pak to see the Starz-Family channel.
    too bad that Showtime doe's not have Showtime-Family on Dish/E.
     
  13. jessshaun

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    I have family that subscribed to DishFamily and they got the free preview...

    Of course they had to call and ask, but they did get it.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    Ok, now to ask the flame-stirring question...

    For everyone complaining about how they didn't get the free preview...

    How many of you actually are interested in adding HBO/MAX and would have considered it based on the preview? How many of you just wanted some free channels for the weekend?

    Answer honestly.
     
  15. Slamminc11

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    My guess would be...
    NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. CCarncross

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    I doubt you'll get honest answers. You'll get responses like "thats not the point"

    ;)
     
  17. scooper

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    We watched one movie - I think...
     
  18. cboylan3

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    the answer is...both

    I could have evaluated the package (price & content) to see if there was enough movies/shows my family could enjoy together compared to going to the local video store.

    It would have been a nice treat to see a free movie.

    All in all though, after looking at the guide, it doesn't seem like we missed much or that there was much on that we would have cared to watch.
    and yes, we rented a movie from the local video store this weekend.:D

    i really dont think its that big of an issue that some people on BOTH sides of conversation are making it out to be.

    If the rule is that only AT packages get free previews, then fine so be it. If it really bothers you, then contact DISH and discuss it with them.

    If someone, unaware of the rule, questions why they didnt get the free preview, It doesn't give others the right to bash that person.

    But the underlying issue is that, does that rule actually exist? if so, DISH needs to make sure the their customers are aware of that rule. I think that would have elleviated the questions/complaints
     
  19. Fifty Caliber

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    Curious question, did the Dish Latino and Great Wall package subscribers get the free preview as well? If I am not mistaken, they did. Also if someone only subscribed to locals, superstations, internationals, or one of the sports packages and not one of the basic packages, did they get the free preview?
     
  20. Fifty Caliber

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    So you subscribe to locals only, and did not get the free preview? Do you subscribe to superstations, distant networks, or any other programing?
     
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