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DISH Network Launches Local TV Stations in High Definition in Nashville Via Satellite

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by JohnH, Feb 20, 2006.

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  1. gitarzan

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    Some good points are made here that I hadn't thought of. I was also just thinkng that broadcast distants in HD might satisfy many people in the meantime.
     
  2. JohnH

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    In addition to the VOOM dish or its equivalent you will need a DiSH 1000.
     
  3. joebird

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    The only reason Nashville is to high on the list is because Charlie is a Tennessee alum.
     
  4. Nashcat

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    UT is in Knoxville...
     
  5. mruk69

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    If you drover around the Nashville areas all you see is Satellite dishes. In my subdivision which is big about 75% have Sat vs Commi cast. Also their are a lot of rich folks in the area.
     
  6. Nashcat

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    Sorry, I drifted off... where you trying to make a point?
     
  7. mruk69

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    No all I am trying to say their seems to be lot more folks with Satellite around here. Also, Nashville is local some areas in Kentucky and towards the Alabama border. So it covers a much larger area than just Nashville.
     
  8. lastmanstanding

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    Do we have any idea when Dish will go all HD? I've been holding my fire on the HD upgrade. Now the 1080p sets and projectors are showing up, but except for a handful of channels there is still not enough HD programming to make the move worthwhile. They even keep dragging their feet on HD-DVD and BluRay.

    I guess I should be grateful, hardware prices keep falling and specs improving, but I'd really like to get this done.

    LMS
     
  9. normang

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    So "get er Done"

    Nothing will ever be "all" HD, there is plenty of content now, far more than even a couple years ago. But some shows will always be SD, perhaps due to production costs.

    You can continue to wait, and some prices will get better, it all depends on what your looking for.. Smaller sets will get cheaper, larger sets will get a little cheaper, but not much more if I had to guess, it depends on the tech inside.

    Do it now... enjoy what there is now..
     
  10. lastmanstanding

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    normang,
    Yeah, I am getting frustrated by waiting. And you are right, the older shows will be upconverted for decades. When will the bigger better Dish HD-PVRs be out? 20 hours just won't cut it. We barely get by with two SD- 90 hour drives.
    Thanks,
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  11. normang

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    the 622 will provide 30 hours of HD, and tons of SD recording. It may take some management to keep things pared down for new HD recordings, and while I don't know of anyone that does this, you can fill the drive, then its first in and last out, as you add new shows, the older shows get deleted..

    If I had to guess, the reason for the limits is two things (IMHO), the cost of the 500gb drives, which I think may only add another 15-20 hours?, which isn't bad I guess, and you have the option, I believe to add a USB HD and copy recordings over to it, but they are wedded to the reciever by encryption, you couldn't connect that drive to a computer and download the video. Not even sure how it formats the disk..

    Since I have not tried it, I am not sure how its all managed, whether you can merely watch them from the USB disk from another menu, or whether you need to copy them back. Perhaps someone else has more details..
     
  12. Larry Caldwell

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    I think that feature is still vaporware. I wonder how the Dishplayer transfer handles the encryption? Does the 622 decrypt the data on its way to the Dishplayer, or does the Dishplayer have its own access to the encryption key? If so, how are they going to handle security updates?

    I bet we never see external storage.
     
  13. Larry Caldwell

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    Just like some shows will always be B&W?
     
  14. normang

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    Larry.. I am not sure whether this is vaporware or not, and since I suspect that the mpeg stream into the receiver is already encrypted, it wouldn't be that tough to key it to the reciever.

    And, yes, some shows occasionally are in B&W, even though it may not be for the complete show.. I've seen programming that uses B&W for effect. Flashback scenes.. etc
     
  15. Larry Caldwell

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    Dish has a pretty firm policy that "you get what you buy when you buy it." The only firm support I have seen is to keep receivers working as well as they did when you bought them. If you want new features, buy a new receiver. I have been a Dish subscriber since 1996, and have never seen them do anything else.

    Don't buy a 622 expecting internet connectivity or external program storage. While the hardware has the capability, that means nothing.

    As for SD programming in the future, I suspect we will continue to see classic SD programs for decades. SCIFI is still running the old half hour Twilight Zone series in black and white, and those shows are over 40 years old. Strangely enough, they were produced before videotape, and if the original film negatives still exist, they may end up being transferred to HD in 4:3 B&W.

    For sure, new productions will all be HD. The equipment is cheap enough even for amateur productions, which have been using HD videocams for years, and transferring the video to film if they make it to theatrical release.
     
  16. normang

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    While its true that many recievers had ports for future features that never came to life, however the external HD support cannot be that tough if they expect the reciever to support Pocket Dish. So, one of these days I'll plug in a USB HD and see what I get..

    And while HD production is getting cheaper, I still don't expect SD programming to disappear anytime soon.

    Movies and other material already in HD, are already prevalent and will continue to expand, but even at that, many daytime shows, game shows, some talk shows, may remain SD for a long time... time will tell... (always does)
     
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