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DISH Network Offers 'DishFAMILY' Programming Tier,......

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by JohnH, Feb 1, 2006.

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  1. Geronimo

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    I don't always see eye to eye with Mr. Long but, in fairness, when he has expressed political beliefs they tend to be pretty conservative.

    His comment here does not seem to have anything to do with Fox's political leanings it is more of a comment on how they include footage that might not meet the definition of family fare.

    In the end I think Fox was chosen because it is cheaper than many of the alternatives and it's overall political perspective seems to fit the demographics of the Dish Family Pack.

    butt his Family Pack isa peculiar bird. It is not part of the main DISH line and there are indications (from the recent HBO promotion) that DISH does not include those customers as subscribers for some purposes (although I will be that they show up when the total sub number is quoted) .

    In the end i think that DISH just chose the news channel that seemed to most closely fit with the goals above. But they don't control its content and I don't know how many people share JL's concerns.
     
  2. Geronimo

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    the problem with that argument is that whether you cared about that or not the package is what it is and that is what you signed up for. It is a low cost package. Along with that come restrictions on content. This is just one of them.
     
  3. stonecold

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    Jason now you know that is wrong. What your saying is that James can run his mouth about fox news because he is a moderator and he can have his own opinions but at the same time it is not true for everyone else as if I had the anti fox news or xyz channel ranting tht james did I see my back side of a ban again. Remember administration ban me for having an opinion on neutrality and advertisements.
     
  4. Paul Secic

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    On TV LAND they have an ad for femine warming gel. I wonder if the Family Pack people complain about it?
     
  5. Jeff McClellan

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    That isn't what Jason said. What he said is, James, or anyone, being a mod or member, is entitled to their thoughts. Stonecold, I worked here for awhile, and there wasn't a different set of posting agendas for moderators over members. Whatever may have gotten you banned has obviously been revisited, or you wouldn't be posting now. Isn't that fair to say. And give the people here some credit, for taking the time to rethink whatever that was. I think that all should be able to post their thoughts, as long as they stay within the guidelines of what this site expects. Heck, I posted something yesterday that Ron edited, and now that I think about it, he was right. It didn't get my dander up.
     
  6. James Long

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    That's precisely what I was getting at. While E* is promoting this package as family friendly --
    We have pre-screened the 40 channels in our DishFAMILY package to ensure the content is appropriate for all ages, and have developed stringent guidelines on eligible programming available to DishFAMILY customers. As a result, it is not necessary for many customers subscribing to this package to set up parental locks and controls that would ensure content transmitted in a Free Preview is screened appropriately.
    Yet they have included a network that will show 'less than family friendly' content for extended periods with no apparent connection to the stories being told. (If the story is about a rapist who kills prostitutes the video should show prostitutes - not college girls partying.)

    The only reason that E* would make an exception to their 'stringent guidelines' is political. They figure that the same folks craving a 'family pack' also crave Fox News - despite it's less than family friendly programming. It all comes back to the reason DishFAMILY is offered at all ... to apease conservatives and avoid any FCC or congressional interference in E*'s packaging decisions.

    I like E* and I like SkyAngel. I support and subscribe to both. I don't consider FNC a 'family friendly' channel. They need to be called on it.
     
  7. Titus2525

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    Censoring content like the most popular Christian movie of all time, "the Passion of the Christ", but showing a few bikini babes on Foxnews? What once was a tiny reward for being a customer is now one great big brother joke! The folly of censorship is that it's blind.
    :lol:
     
  8. Slamminc11

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    But Dish isn't censoring anytbing?
     
  9. Ron Barry

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    Actually it was an thread hijack that was starting to rathole. Had to take your post out with it. ;) I did post that I had done it though in the thread. :D
     
  10. Opynion

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    The good thing about the FOX NEWS Channel, is that most kids don't like news channels. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Geronimo

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    I wan't arguins with you JL. I have no idea how many share your concern. I just said I don't think that your objection is a political one.
     
  12. Titus2525

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    Technically it's a "voluntary" forth level parental control of sorts when you subscribe to the family package. The first being the actually parents, the second the V chip, the third the remote control password protection and finally the forth, a blackout by Echostar of the free preview channels for certain customers, not all of which belong to the "family tier". By definition it's censorship only in that a few customers have no say in it's implementation and is unwelcomed I'm sure, by at least 5 percent and growing amount of customers who maintain non-core packages other than the family package, those who by my best guess is are now deemed expendable by Echostar, in other words the small fry living in rural areas watching American Idol, who have downgraded due to the recent flood of unwanted price increases. And will now will more than likely call up to cancel their service out of spite and turn down the $5.99 monthly bill offer with an access fee waiver "carrot" to stay. The access fee being the minimum requirement as recent as December of 2005 to receive the free preview weekends but that bar has since been raised "voluntarily" due to censorship pressure by congress and lobby groups. This ultimately is a very bad pr move on dish's part for a variety of reasons no matter how you slice it, hence the recent vaguely worded press release addressing the issue. In otherwords, the straw that broke the camel's back for some. To my knowledge, not even Directv blocks free views to none core, none family tier subscribers. The logic for this new black out policy makes no sense when aplied to none core subs and they have not addressed it in their recent press release. Do they want to block mature content from none core subs as well? If so, why have they not blacked out all pay per view channels as well?
     
  13. JohnL

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    Opynion,

    Then they should love Fox News, as the name is a misnomer. Fox News is anything but, it should instead be called "Conservative Spin Cycle".

    John
     
  14. Mike D-CO5

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    I always thought the "No Spin Zone" meant no spin for everyone else, EXCEPT the conservative right wing nuts.:p
     
  15. Opynion

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    I prefer CNN over Fox News;
    I agree that Fox is heavy for the Family Pack, but like I say, I don't worry that much about this news channel being on the Fam Pack, because kids don't care about news as their parents do.
     
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