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DISH Price Increase announced

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Satelliteracer, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. Dec 22, 2012 #61 of 100
    Rickt1962

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    If Dish wants to Kick Directv in the Nuts big TIME, All they have to do is offer A La Carte ! I only watch 10 channels or so Plus Movies channels
     
  2. Dec 22, 2012 #62 of 100
    inazsully

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    Me too. $10 channels at $7 each plus 15 a month for the movie channels. Sweet. Only $85mo. Yes, at a-la-cart rates that's what they would be.
     
  3. Dec 22, 2012 #63 of 100
    Inkosaurus

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    Its been discussed a million times and the general consensus is its not affordable for the customer. Bundled channel packages would be significantly cheaper for you.

    Your 10 channels would probably cost just as much as the AT200.
     
  4. Dec 23, 2012 #64 of 100
    WebTraveler

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    You have to get the programmers to go along with ala carte as well, so far they have not.
     
  5. Dec 23, 2012 #65 of 100
    Paul Secic

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    Really?
     
  6. Dec 23, 2012 #66 of 100
    Paul Secic

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    I fully agree with you. 20 years ago The Disney was $10 a month.
     
  7. Dec 23, 2012 #67 of 100
    tampa8

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    HBO is $18 on Dish.

    As pointed out - A La Carte has been talked to death. You will pay more than you do now, for fewer channels. Fine if you only want two or three channels, but even then you will be screaming at paying so much for those two or three.
    Want an example? RSN's cost somewhere around $3+ now (toward $4 or more for some) with everyone paying, make it A La Carte and it has been determined because so few would actually get them (Compared to everyone being forced to pay now) the cost could be $10 to $15 a month for just the RSN.
    So lets say $10 for the RSN, and approx $7 each for five channels. That is $31 for just those four channels. Does not even include the cost of locals. We already see $5+ is the price for some of the A La Carte available. Some channels will cost more than the $7, some might cost somewhat less..... But you can see it just does not work unless you really only want a couple of channels.
     
  8. Dec 23, 2012 #68 of 100
    Inkosaurus

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    And even then those few channels may cost more together , then the price of going from at 200 to at 250, so if it were possible to get a la carte + a package the logical choice would probably still be to just get the package instead.
     
  9. Dec 26, 2012 #69 of 100
    Satelliteracer

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    I don't understand a $15 increase either. I've never seen one that big for programming.
     
  10. Dec 26, 2012 #70 of 100
    Rickt1962

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    http://skyvision.com/programming/index.html#10pak

    Just a little reminder what the channels really cost and they still make money !


    Get It All Pak
    $46.66 a month
    with annual subscription

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ∙ BBC America ∙ Centeric (BET Jazz) ∙ Biography ∙ Bravo E&W
    ∙ Bloomberg TV ∙ Chiller ∙ Cooking Channel ∙ Current TV
    ∙ OWN (Discovery Health) ∙ Planet Green (Discovery Home)
    ∙ The Hub (Discovery Kids) ∙ Discovery Military
    ∙ Discovery Science ∙ Investigation Discovery (Discovery Times)
    ∙ DMX Music ∙ ESPN Classic ∙ FIT TV
    ∙ FOX Movie Channel ∙ FOX Soccer Channel ∙ FUSE ∙ G4
    ∙ Game Show Network ∙ Golf ∙ GAC
    ∙ HGTV East & West ∙ History International
    ∙ History Channel East & West ∙ Horse Racing Channel ∙ IFC
    ∙ Halogen (Inspirational Life) ∙ Lifetime Movie Network
    ∙ MTV2 ∙ MTV Hits ∙ National Geographic ∙ Nick Toons
    ∙ Teen Nick (Nick GAS) ∙ Nick Jr (Noggin) ∙ RFD-TV
    ∙ OLN (Versus) ∙ The Outdoor Channel ∙ Sci-Fi
    ∙ Shop NBC ∙ Sleuth ∙ Speed Channel ∙ Sprout for Kids
    ∙ Style ∙ TBN ∙ Disney XD (Toon Disney) ∙ TCM
    ∙ The Word ∙ TV Games ∙ VH1 Classic
    ∙ VH1 Country (CMT Pure) ∙ VH1 Soul ∙ WE

    PLUS

    ∙ Starz E ∙ Starz West ∙ Starz Cinema E ∙ Sundance
    ∙ Starz Comedy E (Kids) ∙ Starz Edge E ∙ Starz Edge W
    ∙ Starz in Black E ∙ Starz Kids & Family E ∙ Encore Action E
    ∙ Encore Action W ∙ Encore Drama E ∙ Encore Drama W
    ∙ Encore E ∙ Encore W ∙ Encore Love E ∙ Encore Love W
    ∙ Encore Mystery E ∙ Encore Mystery W ∙ Encore WAM E
    ∙ Encore Westerns E ∙ Encore Westerns W ∙ MOVIEplex E

    $55.99 Month
     
  11. Dec 26, 2012 #71 of 100
    Stewart Vernon

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    As I read it, the only package getting a $15 increase is the Everything Pack... so, while not good if you subscribe to that... at least it is the Everything Pack going up the most, which makes sense given that it has pretty much all the channels.
     
  12. Dec 26, 2012 #72 of 100
    tampa8

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    But doesn't make sense from this standpoint... AEP has no more channels than Top250. (Plus the movies of course) AEP went up $5. So that leaves a $10 increase. The four movie packages at least at this time are about $1 more at $45 than they were. So that's leaves about a $9 or so increase not accounted for. Like many have pointed out, with that $9 increase it's the same price as getting the Top250 and the four movie packages, so why bother having an AEP? Just seems there is more to it that we do not know...
     
  13. Dec 26, 2012 #73 of 100
    tampa8

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    I am missing your point I think. How is that much different than a similar Dish package? It's nowhere near the channels of the Dish top package... And no RSN among many other sports.
     
  14. Dec 26, 2012 #74 of 100
    James Long

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    AT250 $74.99+$45 for all four movie packages = $119.99. The same price as AEP. I don't see why AEP needs to be cheaper than AT250+four movie packages. The $45 for four movie packages is already a $12 discount.

    I seem to remember pricing a few years back where AEP = AT250+4 movie packs. And I remember complaints that AEP jumped the most ... but no kudos the next couple of years as it stayed low.

    I see AEP's price as artificially low for the past few years ... DISH playing with the $100 price. With the 2013 bump to at least $109.99 they might as well get back a real price. DirecTV is already at $119.99 for Premier so they will still be higher than DISH once their annual increase kicks in.
     
  15. Dec 26, 2012 #75 of 100
    ehilbert1

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    True but again at least Direct gives you their sports pack with their premier. Plus more Max channels and more HD in their premiums. Especially their Showtimes.

    So please tell us what is Dish adding????? It doesn't make sense. Even if Direct goes up some they still off more in their top pack.
     
  16. Dec 26, 2012 #76 of 100
    Stewart Vernon

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    Dish has some channels that DirecTV doesn't have too... so you could just as well ask that in the DirecTV forum.

    I think the larger point here is... AEP pricing = AT250 + Premium Pack isn't the end of the world. In fact, it makes a kind of sense that you wouldn't get a discount for AEP over buying AT250 + Premiums when that is essentially what AEP is.

    Probably the idea is AEP might eventually go away as a tier to simplify things.

    Based on the pricing, I think they also want to move people off of AT120+... that would leave less tiers and less confusion I think from customers.
     
  17. Dec 26, 2012 #77 of 100
    ehilbert1

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    I'm just talking their top packages. You raise it $15 you should at least add more premiums and make them all HD. Hell throw in the Epix channels. Come on Stewart you don't have to always defend Dish man.

    At least others on here are stumped by a $15 increase too. Not you though you. I'm not putting Dish down. I like others just don't get it.
     
  18. Dec 26, 2012 #78 of 100
    James Long

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    Looking back there was a time where the gap between what is now AT120 and AT200 was $9 ... ten years ago AT120+ was created in the middle ... $4 less than AT200, $5 more than AT120. Over the past decade the gap between AT120 and AT200 has widened, becoming $15 in 2010. With the increasing price of RSNs the line probably belongs closer to being a little off AT200 instead of a little more than AT120.

    BTW: AT250 over AT200 (with name changes) has remained a consistent $10 difference since 2004.
     
  19. Dec 26, 2012 #79 of 100
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    Great...
    It would be nice if I could just opt-out of the rsn's [ didn't realize until lately they are so expensive] and other sports channels I never watch, and keep the same 250 package at the current price.

    Opting out isn't the same as charging more for a separate sports package in my thinking.

    Something else I've wondered about, if the Showtime channels are the same price between both Direct and Dish, why doesn't Dish carry the same amount of showtime channels as Direct? Seems Dish is missing a couple. Isn't the "package" the same across the board?
     
  20. Dec 27, 2012 #80 of 100
    Rickt1962

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    I was responding to inazsully price of $85 bucks if you just get a couple of channels A La Carte which you can with the Big dish and pay alot less
     

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