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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

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  1. Oct 4, 2010 #621 of 2032
    Gloria_Chavez

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    Jhon, you say,

    But I'll get off my soap box, it appears most people are more concerned about integrity of Dish contract language than customers being happy with their service. Didn't know that was the purpose of this forum.

    I would argue that it goes beyond the integrity of the contract. It's about the average PayTv bill having gone up 122% since 1995, while Household TV consumption has gone up only 13% during that time frame.

    If Fox is able to extract a significant rate hike this week, why won't another network, let's say Galavision, be able to ask for 400% more next time around. And wouldn't the Spanish-speaking audience have a right to complain, as you are now. And let's say that the Carrier acquiesces, and pays' Galavision its 400% more. Should you have to pay 1 dollar a month more (or whatever the number is) for a channel you don't watch?

    I support E*, and I would support D* as well.
     
  2. Oct 4, 2010 #622 of 2032
    Cable Lover

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    As long as they have Fox News Channel, I'm a happy camper. I miss the FSN's, but they produce so little HD content, I rarely watch it anyway.
     
  3. Oct 4, 2010 #623 of 2032
    sigma1914

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    Gloria, 2 things. The quote button is your friend. Also, just put the stat in your signature because you use it all the time...10 times out of your 98 posts. :nono2:
     
  4. Oct 5, 2010 #624 of 2032
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    Yeah I must have dyslexia.
     
  5. Oct 5, 2010 #625 of 2032
    James Long

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    And considering it cost DISH $743 to acquire the customer asking for some of it back makes sense.
     
  6. Oct 5, 2010 #626 of 2032
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    sigma1914, a bit off topic but why do you have the anti BBC America HD and AMC HD avatar? Piqued my curiosity I guess because I watch a ton of BBCA HD.
     
  7. Oct 5, 2010 #627 of 2032
    Stewart Vernon

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    I assume DirecTV works the same way as Dish here, but I could be wrong.

    With Dish, you can pay full price for the install up front and not have any commitment at all. This means you pay more to start with Dish but have no obligation at all should you choose to leave at any point.

    Same thing applies for upgrades. You are eligible for reduced-price upgrades after a while if your account is in good standing.. but taking those requires a commitment. Once again, you can choose to pay more and have no commitment.

    For all of that, I am talking lease scenarios.

    You can always buy your own equipment and have no commitment that way either... but that costs even more of course.

    The point still remains, though, that most customers choose the equipment discounts and don't think about the commitment... then if something goes wrong somehow they forget that they willingly committed to receive an up-front discount.

    Same thing happens with smartphones like the iPhone. I hear people complaining about AT&T not letting them upgrade early and how mad they are about it... except they didn't want to pay full price and they accepted the subsidized phone and agreed to the commitment. As with Dish, your cellphone provider will let you pay full price at any time you want in lieu of a commitment.

    Some folk just want their cake and a treat to eat too... they want their discounts and free install or free equipment or temporary account credits but then conveniently forget about that agreement and commitment.
     
  8. Oct 5, 2010 #628 of 2032
    SayWhat?

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    I did.

    Flexibility in the amount one wants to pay.

    I didn't. I understood it could change periodically.


    I've been on Dish since the mid 90s. Channel lineup has changed quite a few times. Channels come, channels go. No problem for me.
     
  9. Oct 5, 2010 #629 of 2032
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    Why do people keep bringing up the termination fee? It's been mentioned here several times that "D" will pay for the termination fee. Not sure about other cable companies.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2010 #630 of 2032
    phrelin

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    The truth of the matter is that a lot of folks have no idea what the implications are in the paper they sign. If they did, we wouldn't have had The Great Recession because everyone would have understood that a $0 down payment to buy a home with a first year interest only mortgage is an impossible trap.

    So I believe people when they tell us they "didn't sign up for this." There's no excuse for being so unaware, not even "it was so cheap," but I believe them.
     
  11. Oct 5, 2010 #631 of 2032
    James Long

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    The rulez:
    Early Cancellation Fee (ECF) offer for customers in a commitment with another television provider, who add advanced DIRECTV equipment and who follow the instructions on the ECF offer form provided at directv.com/rebate. Form must be completed and mailed with customer’s original final bill which includes applicable ECF charge(s). Postmarked no greater than 90 days from the date of last activation with DIRECTV. Final ECF fee will be reimbursed in the form of a DIRECTV Visa® Prepaid Card up to $200 mailed to active DIRECTV account. DIRECTV Visa Prepaid Cards are issued by MetaBank™ pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. This card does not have cash access and can be used at any merchants that accept Visa debit cards. Card valid through expiration date shown on front of card. High-Speed Internet and Voice ECF charges are not eligible.
    They will send you a card that gives you $200 in merchandise (no cash access) if you qualify and follow the rules. The card is supposed to arrive in 8-12 weeks (that's 2-3 months).

    It is funny ... searching for the rebate on the internet I found mostly complaints about people not getting the rebates DirecTV promised.
     
  12. Oct 5, 2010 #632 of 2032
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    DirecTV will clean up on this if local Fox stations go out for months, which I guarantee will happen because Charlie is just gonna go down with the ship. We will all be D* subscribers within a year at this rate.
     
  13. Oct 5, 2010 #633 of 2032
    Cable Lover

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    I just realized I'm getting the SD feed of NFL Network. That's better then FSN during football season. :righton:
     
  14. Oct 5, 2010 #634 of 2032
    SergeantPinback

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    I don't have the sports channels. I lost FX and NATGEO and got two channels, (HDNET Movies and HD Theater), that I already pay for. So, no compensation for me at all. If Dish knocked a couple of bucks off a month until they get those two channels back, that would show me something.

    I've been reading post after post about early termination fees and one question keeps coming to me. If you're cancelling Dish and never want anything more to do with them, exactly how are they going to get money out of you? I mean, if they start losing channels to the point that I have to go elsewhere, contract or not, I'm gonna tell them to go fish. Not there yet and I'm not sure that I would even care that much about losing my local FOX, if that happens November 1st, but I'm just saying. Are they gonna send a goon to my house to break my legs? Well, I guess they could sue, although they'd be out of luck trying to collect anything from someone who gets a retirement and/or Social Security. Also, that would make for a nice little PR nightmare for them.
     
  15. Oct 5, 2010 #635 of 2032
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    Since I work for a call center that sells Dish I was really expecting this whole thing to be kind of a PITA figuring i'd be getting fairly regular calls about this. So far I've taken one call about it, not exactly an uproar. We'll see what happens once the regular seasons of hockey and basketball start.
     
  16. Oct 5, 2010 #636 of 2032
    Jhon69

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    Gloria?.It wasn't me that said I will get off my soapbox it was MilFan.I support Dish network.:)

    P.S. That's 1 click each on Multi Quote and 1 click on Quote for the last quote.;)
     
  17. Oct 5, 2010 #637 of 2032
    Jhon69

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    Your problem with not having the sports channels puzzles me,is your guide on "All Channels" at the top of the guide?.If so they should be listed in the 9000 range in "All Channels".What receiver do you have?.I have the 625 and they are there.:)
     
  18. Oct 5, 2010 #638 of 2032
    Jhon69

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    If that happens I will be OTA and a Roku box subscriber.;)
     
  19. Oct 5, 2010 #639 of 2032
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    You may still be able to take it to a bank and get cash out of it. I've gotten those prepaid visa debit card rebates before that claimed no cash access, and they still let me cash it at my local bank. But even if you couldn't, you can use it anywhere visa is excepted, so it's not like you are required to spend it at bed bath and beyond or something.

    Anyway, I've never had any troubles getting Directv rebates...but then, everyone's experience in life is different.

    I'm just glad I left Dish years and years ago. This would be very disheartening to lose 2 of the channels I originally signed up for (FX, NatGeo) and still be under contract and having to do business with the company screwing me from behind (glad my contract with D* ends next month, so if they tried pulling this I could turn tail and run).
     
  20. Oct 5, 2010 #640 of 2032
    sigma1914

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    It's kind of tongue-in-cheek sarcasm for all the whining for addition of the 2 stations in HD on the DirecTV side. ;)
     
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