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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RasputinAXP, Sep 9, 2010.

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  1. Oct 5, 2010 #641 of 2032
    James Long

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    Something they should not have done.
    To whom? Every provider has their own problems.

    I look at it as a status report on two channels that DISH customers somewhat enjoy (although happy threads about channels people get are not the norm on either side of the site).
     
  2. Oct 5, 2010 #642 of 2032
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    They will just turn it over to a collection agency. It's up to you to decide if you want to pay the commitment you agreed to or shuck your responsibilities. Of course your dodging payment means others will pay for your bills through higher subscription fees.... I'm sure that will make you feel good about not paying :)
     
  3. Oct 5, 2010 #643 of 2032
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    Right into another 24 month contract? :) Even Comcast was doing them here for a while, they used to brag about "No contracts" but I guess they wanted to be competitive with the satellite promotional pricing. A quick look at their site now and they seem to be gone... Guess cable is your only choice?

    More Info: To be clear, I'm not completely being funny here.. Now that those Ceton InfiniTV 4 tuners are shipping, if I ever get one I will be jumping back to cable to get my local RSNs, using win 7 media center and an Xbox 360 in the back room as an extender for MRV
     
  4. Oct 5, 2010 #644 of 2032
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    I promise it's in no way relating to Dish or this side...I rarely post here on this side, but this topic is interesting. It's really a joke for those who put the channel they want as their avi on the Directv side. I like AMC's original programs a lot.

    I'd love every HD channel on every provider...It'd drive prices down.
     
  5. Oct 5, 2010 #645 of 2032
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    I did not take it that way, I just did not catch on. For some reason I thought DirecTV had those, I thought the HD was pretty even these days. I guess there are channel here and there that are off though.
     
  6. Oct 5, 2010 #646 of 2032
    James Long

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    Or up as our carriers pay for the channels and pass that charge on to us, the consumer. Even "free" (no extra charge for HD) channels cost the satellite company in bandwidth ... increasing bandwidth requires increasing the number of expensive satellites. Receivers, encoders and transport at the uplink. Every channel added costs money. They even have to pay the guys who negotiate the best deals for the company.

    We'll have every HD channel eventually ... likely via channel providers who will (if they do not already) require HD carriage to get the existing SD channels. But it won't come "free".
     
  7. Oct 5, 2010 #647 of 2032
    Hoosier205

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    I have posted a question, which involves this topic, in the "lineup comparison" thread. It would be helpful if a few Dish subs could chime in with their thoughts. Thank you.
     
  8. Oct 5, 2010 #648 of 2032
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    Do I think Dish will suffer as a result of not carrying most Fox stations at the moment? Actually no because if you look other providers go through a struggle with providers wanting to raise their rates and the channels being pulled. I mean look at the VS situatin for Direct customers. Sure some say they will switch providers but in all reality that is just too much bother for most people including myself. For me I actually am not going to miss some of those Fox channels especially FX which I really never watched. Although I do know that most now are probably complaining about missing some motorcycle gang show. Besides, I think that the situation will be resolved as well. So sure Fox is raising the rates and Dish will not pay. However the ones suffering now are the sponsors on the Fox networks. For now there are all those dish subscribers not watching their ads. So if I was a sponsor I would look elsewhere simply to reach all customers I could. Look back to the Viacom situation where I think sponsors were hurting and they came to an instant agreement. For now though by missing a few fox stations is not going to take Charlie down as some may think. If that was the situation then the Viacom fiasco back in 2004 would have taken him down.
     
  9. Oct 5, 2010 #649 of 2032
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    I will most likely just forgo a provider and switch to OTA/Hulu+/Netflix.

    Won't get all the shows I would want, but then again, I wouldn't be paying out the nose and not getting the channels I care about.

    That's where it's headed for me anyway, I already use Hulu for half of my TV viewing, I've just not been ready to give up my HD DVR.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2010 #650 of 2032
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    KRON doesn't carry A's, never dd. They just have lots of news, infomercials ETC.
     
  11. Oct 5, 2010 #651 of 2032
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    I have been doing it for months. OTA + Internet. I just got done watching hoarders on A&E.com..........next thing on my list is FTA. :)
     
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    I'll speculate that we need to see how Cablevision makes out with Fox NYC & Phila. locals on the 16th. Then we can see where Dishnetwork may be going. It kind of kaboshes my plan to record the Local Fox channel if E* lost them however:shrug:. I've been wanting to get a OTA antenna anyway. If it weren't for the foil sided foam under the siding I'd probably be OK with Rabbit ears. I put a link to the whole article below as well as an excerpt.

    From Here:
    http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/pr...me-for-ny-giants-and-philadelphia-eagles-fans

    On October 16th, Murdoch's WNYW and WWOR in New York along with Philadelphia's WTXF could disappear from Cablevision's lineup which would deprive Cablevision subscribers of New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles and NFL games
     
  13. Oct 5, 2010 #653 of 2032
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    Agree completely, and a new customer if they choose, can avoid any ETF by paying a $99.00 activation fee to avoid any term commitment. They would not recieve the current $15.00 mo. discount or the $6"Service Plan" however.
     
  14. Oct 5, 2010 #654 of 2032
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    And Golden Gate Field in San Mateo, ponies:)
     
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    will this affect NHL Center ICE since many of the game feeds come from the RSNs. Also I hear the 1st month of Center Ice will be a free preview.
     
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    Anyone have any insight into what the next DirecTV deal will be? The Sunday ticket ends deal ends in a few days. If they happen to have a Center Ice deal coming up I may just make the move. I have been with DISH for many years ,but I am getting tired of the endless disputes. I know all providers have carriage problems,but it certainly seems the DISH leads the pack in that area.
     
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    You can call and ask, but I don't believe they do any sign up deals with any other sports package, at the very least I don't remember them advertising one.
     
  18. Oct 5, 2010 #658 of 2032
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    How come FSN Pittsburgh is not only still on but now available to everybody?
     
  19. Oct 5, 2010 #659 of 2032
    James Long

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    FS Pittsburgh is not part of the dispute.
    DISH has opened up all the remaining RSNs to those who lost Fox or MSG, plus a few other sports channels.
     
  20. Oct 5, 2010 #660 of 2032
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    I don't think that's a fair comparison. Versus's main selling point are the out of market NHL games. And we all know what a niche sport hockey is.

    With FSN, you have Fox Sports West (huge Lakers fanbase), Sun Sports Florida (Heat with LeBron), and Fox Sports North (the Wild, which have great local ratings).

    Kind of like comparing apples and oranges.

    Personally, I think Dish is going to take a huge PR hit over this whole mess. And if they lose the regular FOX network on 11-1, that may be something that they will never recover from.
     
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