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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RasputinAXP, Sep 9, 2010.

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  1. Greg Bimson

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    There was never any rule that allowed you to pick another affiliate.
     
  2. DodgerKing

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    True, but doing the math will also tell you it is not significant. As Dish represents about 14% of PAID tv subscribers, which is a much smaller percentage of ALL TV subscribers. Of those that do use Dish, many are still able to also get the OTA feed of these channels as well. So the true impact of those that will not be able to get their local Fox at all is a very small percentage
     
  3. jsk

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    They aren't changing local news, and most likely not changing ownership, but the TV stations are just changing their affiliations (i.e. where they get most of their programming from). For example, in the Baltimore market:

    The Fox and CW affiliates are owned and/or operated by Sinclair Broadcasting
    The My Network affiliate is owned by Fox
    The ABC affiliate is owned by Scripps-Howard
    The NBC affiliate is owned by Hearst
    The CBS affiliate is owned by CBS

    So, if Fox & E* don't reach an agreement, then I would lose my My Network affiliate, but not my Fox affiliate. A couple of years ago, E* almost didn't come to an agreement with Sinclair which could have resulted in us loosing our Fox & CW affiliates.

    Many years ago Scripps-Howard required cable/satellite companies to carry their new HGTV network in order to carry the ABC affiliate that they own. That is now commonplace and what is happening with Fox. Since they can't come to an agreement about their cable channels, they are threatening to pull their owned & operated stations as well.
     
  4. david91722

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    Your friend has 2 other options. Watch the games at a friends/relatives house (assuming they don't have E*), or go to his local sports bar.
     
  5. lparsons21

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    In my case, the local Fox is using only the other station's local news broadcast, but an hour earlier. Same people on both channels, just a one hour difference.
     
  6. Paul Secic

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    Our FOX station in San Francisco is owned by COX. But the only time I watch it is when the World Series is on. I'm not a FOX fan for some reason. I just watch NATGEO from FOX's channels.
     
  7. comizzou573

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    i think dish network is screwed and backrupt... on their facebook fan page they +21,000 fans that are all switching to directv or cable, they mad as hell over there
     
  8. scooper

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    21,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to 14,000,000 ....

    Even if you do the "for every vocal bad experiance, there is 10 non-vocal" it's still pretty insignificant.
     
  9. comizzou573

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    ^^I dont i think so, there is more than 21,000 dish subs mad about whats going on, according the articles written on facebook, and someone working for ups said they have been getting lots of dish receiver returned back to company, i think if they dont hurry up they are going to be even further deep in the hilo, there is the elections people want to watch on their local channels, msg sports is taken off because they want dish to add a music channel i think that would be cool to be honest, nat geo there are tons of people that watch it... including myself and i am disappointed they are working slow on there end cause there are major events upcoming these weeks
     
  10. kcolg30

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    Esto no pasa en Cuba.
     
  11. Paul Secic

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    Most of those shows on OTA are judges hearing stupid case and the like, more Spanish shows ETC.
     
  12. SayWhat?

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    Well, now THERE'S a viable and credible source. :sure::rolleyes:
     
  13. chum76

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    There are a few subchannel gems...RTV puts tvland to shame, and ThisTV is a good channel, not to mention PBS create. Digital was the best thing to happen to OTA. I have several friends who cant get RTV because no pay subscriber carries it.
     
  14. swallman

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    I wouldn't read too much into the remarks about receivers being returned, etc., but there are certainly a significant number of pissed off Dish customers over there right now.
     
  15. 356B

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    I think bankruptcy is a stretch.......:cool:screwed on the other hand....:new_Eyecr not because they're going broke though. They seem to care less or just incompetent......:confused: Their stuff barley works, they're constantly in contractual disputes, their reps are either in denial, clueless or told to stall.....(lie).:brush: It's not just dishTV though it's the whole system, at least in my world.......:soapbox:

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  16. lparsons21

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    The number isn't all that signficant, but feel free to think it is.

    As to the elections, seems there are a plethora of channels on Dish that will tell you all you can stand to hear about them, and they aren't in trouble.

    And quit trying to blame just one side in this. While I think Dish is the relative good guys in this, they are just as hard-headed as is Fox. When you get two intransigent forces against each other, this is the result you get.
     
  17. Jhon69

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    Well? what do you want for Free!.;):D
     
  18. SayWhat?

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    True on both. Just hope they last and don't fall to the budget axe like earlier incarnations.


    Except for the loss of coverage area and dependability.
     
  19. kcolg30

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    As long as my Extacy channel remains untouched, I will be grabbing my remote and sticking through this 2-way money shot dispute.
     
  20. Dave

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    Churn rate has become the norm in Satellite TV. It just seems like everyone has there own programming they want. DirectV has the same problem but worse on the west coast. There seem to be more indiduals on the west or even east coast that want programming from other countries. DirectV can not or will not provide all these channels. Dish does and will. So if a customer or a group of customers want a channel in Russian, India, Japanese and DirectV is not will to provide they go to Dish. If they had signed up for DirectV and can not get it from them they leave. This is all part of the yearly churn rate. Both providers lose and gain customers in massive numbers each year because of the churn rate. So 21,000 leaving is just part of the yearly churn rate.
     
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