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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RasputinAXP, Sep 9, 2010.

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  1. Paul Secic

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    This morning on CNN they talked about FOX pulling their channels off of Cablevision in New York City. They said Cablevision pays seventy million dollars per year. Double that and you have a fight!

    Go Charlie duke it out!
     
  2. Paul Secic

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    Rupart might own the Sun Herald.
     
  3. Paul Secic

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    Congress isn't in session. They're kissing babies & such.
     
  4. SaltiDawg

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    Actually, the House is in Session, just most members absent. A dirty-trick this year to prevent the President from making appointments.

    EDIT: I should have said "Senate" not "House." In any event, "Congress" is not in recess.
     
  5. phrelin

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    I do frequently see someone here say "it's only TV." Hmmm. So it is kind of trivial. And since this forum is about TV, what does that make the forum and it's members?:grin:

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    It’s true. It’s only TV. And I’m sending this on “it’s only the internet”. I lived fine without the internet or personal computers before 1980. I lived fine before we got TV in 1951. My grandparents lived fine without the automobile or electricity or airplanes.

    It’s only TV? My Pany plasma. my Toshiba A/V receiver, and my Bose speakers work just fine if they have the reliable HD-with-dolby audio/video content for which I bought them. If Rupert Murdoch and Disney pull the content because in the middle of The Great Recession they figure they can squeeze a lot more money out of me, it ok for me to get angry. But I think more about these situations:

    •If you’re elderly or disabled and except for an occasional outing, spend 24/7 at home, then TV likely takes on a completely different meaning in your life.

    •If you are unemployed in The Great Recession, TV may be helping you avoid depression, even though you have discovered that the bankers and the billionaire owners of multinational corporations like Rupert Murdoch only want more of your money. TV may have a completely different meaning in your life.

    •It’s only TV. Yes, if you work including a commute 11 hours a day, sleep 8 hours, use up 2 eating, find time to shower etc., it is only TV. You’d be lucky to find an hour to watch TV and what could it matter if you've lost that one program you liked to watch on Thursdays? TV has no meaning in your life.

    •If you’re the guy or gal who does that 11 hour day and you come home to four other people complaining that (a) the DVR’s not working, (b) Billy’s family gets Disney in HD, (c) the Smith’s get ESPN in HD and Fox Sports, and (d) why did you decide to go with Dish Network, then TV may take on a completely different meaning in your life.
    If your house and all your belongings are destroyed in a fire, someone will tell you “at least no one was seriously hurt or killed.” That's not much consolation under the circumstances. Saying "it's only TV" isn't going to make it all better for many of these people over the next however many days, even if the scale of the loss isn't that overwhelming.

    Don't dismiss the anger people feel about what Rupert Murdoch represents in this situation. After all, his Fox News has been stirring the fires of anger and fear for over a decade.
    :soapbox:
     
  6. phrelin

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    Yeah, and if we Californian's could put Senator Barbara Boxer and her opponent Carly Fiorina on record in this matter, and in your case Congressman Sam Farr and my case Congressman Mike Thompson, maybe the FCC would get noisy also and worry Rupert's underlings who have to make this work. (Rupert could care less.)

    If I could get a written response expressing concern, if not downright outrage, out of Boxer and Thompson I'd see to it that the Sacramento Bee, the San Francisco Chronicle, and the LA Times would have a copy of it.

    It's time to turn Rupert's approach to doing things against him.

    Boxer isn't in a position to ignore any voter, IMHO. But yeah, I could get that meaningless response, if any. It's worth a try though.
     
  7. TulsaOK

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    Let's not wander into a political discussion here, folks. Dish vs. Fox.
     
  8. whummer

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    I am glad I have found this forum because I see a lot of interesting information. As far as the Dish/Fox thing is concerned here is my take. I do not care who is right or wrong in this dispute. It is clear to me that niether of them is concerned about their customers because if they were this would have been resolved a long time ago without causing customers to lose channels. I have been a long time Dish subscriber, about 13 years, and quite happy with them until moving to HD about 1 1/2 years ago. Since then it has been nothing but trouble. Sound dropping out, distorted picture and the receiver rebooting itself every now and then. I am on my third receiver now and the problems remain. I have gotten all kinds of excuses and conflicting suggestions. And now, this latest programming dispute was the last straw for me. I do not intend to miss any more hockey games and Direct TV will be replacing Dish on Monday.
     
  9. demsd

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    I doubt the consumer has anything to do with it.
     
  10. demsd

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    until DirecTV has to raise your rates... and you'll be back. :D
     
  11. demsd

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    Huh, Appointments?
     
  12. demsd

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    That does not make sense. You complained about the WSJ upping its prices and because DISH does not want to increase your bill, your bailing?
     
  13. demsd

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    :nono2:
     
  14. demsd

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    It did.

    Dish Fox Dispute News
     
  15. Slamminc11

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    When congress is not in session, and there are senior federal appointments that congress still hasn't approved, then the president can do a recess appointment of those federal employees per the constitution while congress is not in session. But what this congress has decided to do, is stay in session (tho limited as it is) so that the president can not make those appointments. No actual congressional work is getting done, but it is blocking those important spots from being filled.
     
  16. demsd

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    Unfortunately, one letter won't.
     
  17. WingNut

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    Since this is happening with Cablevision now and ongoing with Dish Network, can the same happen with DirecTv? Or are their ties with Fox so strong that they won't have to worry about Fox pulling the plug?

    This sounds like a giant ploy to get a lot of people to switch to DirecTv.

    I am tempted to just switch to DirecTv to avoid losing any more channels, but if a few months down the line DirecTv/Fox go through the same BS, I won't be happy.
     
  18. DodgerKing

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    Direct and Fox have already come to terms. There will not be any loss off any Fox channels on Direct anytime soon
     
  19. demsd

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    No, but he does own...
     
  20. RAD

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    Dripping...
    DirecTV and Fox nolonger have any ties. Fox swapped their interest in DirecTV with Liberty Media for Liberty's interest in News Corp. Liberty (aka Dr. Malone) then divested himself of the majority ownership stake that he had in DirecTV so right now their basically a standalone company.
     
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