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Dish Tweeking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by sunfire9us, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. sunfire9us

    sunfire9us Godfather

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    Hey guys, I need some possible hints from you. It's clear I need to re-point my dish at this time. I know my main issue at this time is 99c. It has a shitty signal level of 53. I have the other signal levels listed below. You will agree the others are in a very good range. What I need a hint of is what to play with to get 99c to get raised to a correct/decent level.

    101 - 94
    110 - 80
    119 - 97
    99c - 52
    99s - 95
    103s - 62
    103ca - 92
    103cb - 72

    Does this sound like I need to play with with azimuth a little to you? (thats my guess) or do you see something else? BTW I'm using a slimline 5 dish w/legacy 5lnb though I have a multiswitch on it for SWM. The only other thing I could guess at would be the skew dials? Those were the only thing I never learned how to set properly when I first got this dish several years ago. To this day, I have both of the dials set to the center. I was thinking thats where they are supposed to be at?? Thanks guys
     
  2. inkahauts

    inkahauts DIRECTV A-Team

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    Actually, that doesn't help a whole lot. It'd be better if you showed us the readings from all transponders at each location to get a better idea.
     
  3. jimmie57

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

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    From your post:
    The only other thing I could guess at would be the skew dials? Those were the only thing I never learned how to set properly when I first got this dish several years ago. To this day, I have both of the dials set to the center. I was thinking thats where they are supposed to be at??

    Hold your arms straight out from you on each side of your body pointed to the left and right directions.
    Now tilt your body so that your right arm goes down and the left arm goes up. This is what you do to the dish for the skew. That must be set to whatever you are looking at for numbers, most times your set up screen.
    This is important to get the dish aligned as closely as it can be to the 5 satellites in the sky.
    This number for the skew varies with your location in the US. You definitely need to look at that and adjust it to the proper number.

    After doing that, you probably need to redo the side to side and the elevation again to get the numbers as good as you can.

    I never look at the 99s and 103s since they are spot beams and have funky numbers anyway.
     
  4. bobnielsen

    bobnielsen Éminence grise DBSTalk Club

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    119 would be the most affected by skew misalignment and that looks pretty good. But set it anyway and then tweak the az and el adjustments to get the best values on 99c and 103c.
     
  5. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    There is no such thing as only azimuth, you need to peak you dish "as a whole", meaning you must "dither" the dish to find the center point of the 101. if the mast is level, all of the satellites will "fall into place"
     
  6. sunfire9us

    sunfire9us Godfather

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    Ok, I'll give you the full readings this time BUT now I have another issue to resolve: Since I wrote the original posting, Ive had a satellite tech come out and repoint the dish. It also turned out I had one more major tree limb to chop down to get out of the way for 99 to get thru which caused the signal to jump up to 88 and 89% on the signal meter and now as you would say is now acceptable. The new issue concerns my dvr and recievers to STILL say the dish is misaligned EVEN THOUGH the signal readings are now pretty strong I would say (when I attempt to run the diagnostic tests). After you look at the readings, could you guess why in the world the receivers and dvr's would still say this??? What is funny is, as I was typing all of this to you guys, I attempted to run the test again yet it came clear trying to make me look like a liar lol. This has happened only twice where the test will come out not saying the dish is misaligned. Most of the time it will say it is. Starting to think the dvr is trying to make me crazy. Ever since the original post, my LOS is totally clear now

    101

    1-8 94 92 94 0 92 97 91 97
    9-16 92 95 95 0 95 98 94 98
    17-24 95 76 95 92 95 99 95 98
    25-32 95 96 94 0 95 98 94 98

    110

    1-8 n/a..............79 (last one)
    9-16 n/a 80 na 86 na..........
    17-24 n/a.............................
    25-32 n/a.............................

    119

    1-8 n/a.....................................
    9-16n/a....................................
    17-24 n/a-------------- 96 58 98 (last three transponders)
    25-32 80 97 100 97 74 99 55 99

    99(C)
    1-8 88 88 85 86 86 86 84 85
    9-16 85 87 83 86 88 89 n/a n/a
    17-24 n/a................................
    25-32 n/a.................................

    99(s)

    1-8 96 63 94 53 96 0 n/a n/a
    9-16 n/a.....................77 60(last two transponders)
    17-24 0 22 72 65 48 59 77 62
    25-32 n/a................................

    103 (s)

    1-8 55 0 51 0 n/a...................
    0-16 n/a............... 85 97 ( last two transponders)
    17-24 55 67 97 96 0 0 93 88
    25-32 n/a..................................

    103 (ca)

    1-8 n/a .............................................
    9-16 83 83 86 84 82 79 83 82
    17-24 79 75 83 78 77 73 80 76
    25-32 n/a.........................................

    103 (cb)

    1-8 83 86 83 79 84 77 80 66
    9-16 83 77 86 86 82 77 n/a n/a
    17-24 n/a.....................................
    25-32 n/a....................................


    signal meters

    101 94%
    110 79%
    119 96%
    99(C) 88%
    99(s) 97%
    103(s) 59%
    103(ca) 84%
    103(cb) 83%
     
  7. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    about the only good thing is the 101. Everything else needs "more work"

    110 even though is not used has one at 79, 99c has one at 83 and 103 are on the 70s. This will kick in the message that your dish is misaligned
     
  8. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    Whoever aligned your dish I hope you haven't paid them yet. Make them come back and do it right.
     
  9. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    what this a directv tech who supposedly aligned the dish?
     
  10. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    And the DVR itself isn't trying to gaslight you.....:)
     

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