Wednesday evening my Dishplayer 508 on old Dish 500 setup (dual LNBs and SW-21) stopped being able to tune channels. I checked the signal.. 119 and 110 had about 50 out of 125 bars. That seems like it has always been enough signal. I spent no less than 6 hours last night changing RG-6 cables from the LNBs,& into the house, trying a different SW21, re-pointing the dish.. nothing! It's the behavior one gets when a big thunderstorm is blocking the signal.. the glitchy noises on a black screen and occasionally a very broken up big blocky, jumbled screenshot of something from the USA network (on any channel attempted to be tuned). The receiver acts like it is not getting enough signal. Today I got a DishProPlus Twin LNB and without the need for switches I figured I would rule that out. I had the same result of seemingly not enough signal as before, so I went all out and moved the dish from one end of the yard to the other. The line of site is wide open, so I don't know what to do. Anyone with a 508 can tell me how many signal bars numerically you have for 119 and 110? With the dish's new position and DPP twin LNBs I got the signal up to 71 on 119 and around 55 on 110. Still not enough or is my 508 toasted? Do I have the right LNBs installed now to call Dish and try to get whatever DVR receiver swap is for the 508? I only recently found out about DN making my owned DVR obselete and ending my free grandfathered DVR service in 2 years. I wouldn't mind the swap to the DVR. it doesn't have to be HD. I just want them to ship me the receiver and allow me to install it. I've installed my dish and moved it several times since I first became a customer in 1999 and prefer to always be able to do the installs myself (they used to give a service credit on self-installs). I kinda have a couple options.. I technically never 'moved' my dish (I never updated the home address, only had the billing address updated over the years). I'm just worried I will have to go through an another annoying process with UPS to get the replacement DVR, as I did when Dish discontinued my Dishplayer 7100 for this 508.