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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Wind_River, Oct 22, 2007.

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  1. Jim5506

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    I was watching Dogfights on Discovery Channel a couple of nights ago.

    It wasn't stretched but they did a partial zoom of the picture, because there were narrow bars on each side (about 1/3 the with of SD bars) and some of the graphics were cup off on top and bottom.

    It was obviously SD material upconverted and zoomed.
     
  2. motts

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    Ok, if I have to live with some stretched content, then fine. What is totally unacceptable, though, is stretched material that is already 16:9! That just looks absolutely hideous. I mean, stretched content where I still have a letterbox format as the end result? I thought the point of stretching was to fill the screen, not only in one direction.

    Others in this thread have voiced their dislike for this practice as well. I used to see it A LOT on History Channel, but it seems to have improved lately. I couldn't watch that channel at all. Now I have noticed programs in actual HD shown correctly. A step in the right direction.
     
  3. whatchel1

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    Just one thing that is a little different than your statement. Pan & Scan does follow the most important section of the video. Say if the the most important part starts on the left side and moves to the ride side of the screen. The image shown starts on the left then it follows it across the screen as it moves. Only using the central image is cropping. Pan & Scan has to be done by a provider of the material to have it done correctly.
     
  4. TNGTony

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    Right you are. :) The "zoom" button on most people's HDTVs will just "zoom in" the image, not pan and scan (though some fancy models have the capability to move the zoomed image around to get the "important" part.


    See ya
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  5. Vicsguy

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    The networks cater to the lazy and ignorant. Why? They are the majority! Consider yourselves special!
     
  6. TulsaOK

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    Thanks for the email address. I sent a comment to A&E as well.
     
  7. davethestalker

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    The problem is that the stretched image is more annoying than having the bars on the sIdE. Gray bars are just as annoying as stretched.

    Some people (like my Mom) have a 16:9 TV and do not ever watch any original 16:9 content. Everything they watch is originally if 4:3 and they stretch it. They become so used to it that they think the stretched image is natural.

    Having a gross image just for the sake of "filling the screen" is not worth it. Although, some people enjoy hangin' out in the Fun House stairing at themselves in the funky mirrors.
     
  8. drmckenzie

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    My Samsung HLT6187S has several video settings -- "Just Scan (pass through), "Full Screen" (stretch), etc., and also includes a "4:3" setting. When I select 4:3 while viewing a channel with stretch-o-vision, it shrinks the picture horizontally back to its original video aspect ratio. The picture looks pretty good, and appears to contain everything in the original stretched picture.

    Is this feature just on these Samsungs, or do other widescreen TVs have it? I haven't heard anyone discuss this solution to the problem, so I was wondering if it is an unusual feature, or if perhaps other people just aren't aware of what they can do with video settings they already have.
     
  9. whatchel1

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    I received the exactly same reply from Hist HD today as Miggity. We all need to keep sending in emails to them worded differently but keep expressing what a POS it is to watch the Stretch-O-Vision.
     
  10. Miggity

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    Nice! Thats good to hear.
     
  11. duffytoo

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    Good answer! I too use the partial zoom mode. Gives you great results without distorting the picture. Who wants to watch anything with sidebars?
     
  12. Miggity

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    I got two emails today! One from TBS and one from TNT. Both emails were exactly the same.

    In an effort to present a consistent broadcast, we have decided to maintain the same aspect ratio for all HD programming. An unfortunately consequence of this is that the standard TV ratio of 4:3 is presented as 16:9. This is what “stretches” the image.

    We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

    Best,

    TBS Web Staff



    I admit TNT-HD has gotten better about it these days, but TBS-"HD" is a joke.
     
  13. TNGTony

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    Translation: "We know it looks like crap, but we don't care. If you don't like it, Bl0# me! "

    The key is that any 16x9 TV has a stretch mode for those who want to stretch the image. A pre-streched image (like TNT's) cannot be unstretched by any TV on the planet!

    See ya
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