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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by inkahauts, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. Aug 4, 2010 #161 of 271
    bjlc

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    I , for one, am still terrified of losing my distant networks.. so I have not taken my locals as of yet..


    maybe during football season.. but.. and its a big butt.. I don't want D* to come back and say.. well.. you have locals now.. we aren't going to offer you the distants any more..

    but I was wondering why Josh didn't respond to my question.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2010 #162 of 271
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    I am thinking about having a test done for 2 reasons. I did not get a full compliment of locals and my local FOX in HD is really weak and I think I could pass a site test and be granted for HD DNS. According to the FCC there are no site test requirements yet though so Im not about to shell out money and them be able to say anything they want as a result of the test. Do not be afraid to add your locals. Its in the law now that you are grandfathered in. Mention it at the time of adding them and ask for clarification even but its not a big deal. Take a screen shot of what you have today to keep on file should you ever need it. One screenshot of the approved waivers from that section of D*'s webpage should be good enough. I was worried about it for awhile but its been a month and ahalf and I am no longer worried.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2010 #163 of 271
    Lord Vader

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    You may be grandfathered, but just because you can receive DNS doesn't mean DirecTV has to give you them.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2010 #164 of 271
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    Going forward you are correct. One would have to ask themselves why would D* wanna cut $3.50 profit for a DNS feed just because they can though. All the more add ons are just more money for them. They know what the laws are and should be looking to make the customer happy. I verififed that D* was going to comply with the law and not cut my existing DNS feeds before adding the locals. Then I added them and have not had a problem with any of them being shut off since either. Believe me I understand the reservations of doing it. I had all the same thoughts. I just covered my basis and took a screen shot the day before adding locals so I can verify for sure what I had active on my account. Not to mention it would be on the most recent bill as well.
     
  5. Aug 4, 2010 #165 of 271
    BrucePadgett

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    Joshjr, as I (and others) have interpreted STELA, if one adds a local which carries network programming that essentially duplicates a grandfathered distant network's from an earlier time zone, that distant would be dropped from your DNS package. That is, if your satellite carrier follows the letter of the law, which they will should a local network channel request they do so.

    Whomever you spoke with may not have a full understanding of this, and I would hate for anyone to have one or more of their DNS pulled later on.
     
  6. Aug 4, 2010 #166 of 271
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    It also states that anyone with DNS feeds by the date Stwla was signed & did not already have locals was grandfathered in. Not 1 coast or the other. GRANDFATHERED IN! Feel free not to do it. I did & have not lost anything.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2010 #167 of 271
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    I agree that STELA allows one to keep their grandfathered DNS after adding locals, to directly quote the bill, "whether or not such subscriber elects to subscribe to local signals".

    It's a subsequent sub-paragraph which casts some doubts. It prohibits those who then add their locals from also having an earlier time-shifting capable distant version of any of those locals.

    Basically it legally allows a satellite service to remove a grandfathered DNS, under certain conditions. Should the service choose to, of course.
     
  8. Aug 5, 2010 #168 of 271
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    just another reason for me to stand pat..
     
  9. Aug 5, 2010 #169 of 271
    Lord Vader

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    We're talking about SD DNS channels here, BTW. HD DNS feeds aren't covered by this "grandfathering," despite what many think.
     
  10. bjlc

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    any more opinions or true facts on this situation.. really just true, Hard facts, and limit opinion..

    why"? because I may want to actually have my locals at various times.. BUT I don't want to give up my DISTANTS under any circumstance.. unless D* rips them from me.. and if they do.. I probably will go some where else.. and I have been with them for 8 years in two weeks.
     
  11. joshjr

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    Your not gonna lose them. If you dont believe me then call D* and talk to their DNS department and ask them and if they say no then ask if they can add your locals for you then.

    I still have had no issues with any DNS feeds being shut off for any reason since I added my locals and that was 2 months ago.
     
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    I'm grandfathered in for the SD DNS from both coasts ($3.50/per network) and thus also get HD from NYC which is listed as $0.00. So once I get the locals can I remove one or more without affecting the others? My thinking is that I may want to keep the NBC DNS as it's in 1080i where our local OTA is 720p and thus will probably be 720p from DirecTV as well.

    I know the response will be to call DirecTV, but thought I's express this question now. We are scheduled to get our locals Oct 27.
     
  13. bidger

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    HD DNS feeds as well?
     
  14. BrucePadgett

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    Joshjr, remember a few years ago when some DirecTV subscribers had to choose between distants and locals to comply with legislation governing distant signal reception? I had to return a postcard indicating my choice. Guess what? My distants were turned off anyway. If I hadn't sent the postcard by registered mail to prove I had chosen the DNS I probably wouldn't have gotten them turned backed on again--that and I discovered their removal only hours after DirecTV took them off, which apparently makes putting them back on easier to do for the reps.

    And I had an unusually sympathetic CSR who didn't mind spending almost an hour helping me. Do you think I, you, or anyone else would have that "luck" again if we needed it? Seriously, STELA prohibits DNS if they show programs that a subscribed-to local will broadcast later in the day.

    Skyreport.com has run stories indicating that the FCC is still formulating plans how to implement STELA, and probably will have directives in place this fall. And that's when all those promises from DirecTV may ring hollow. You know, it's not as if their DNS department has always been correct. Even under the older legislation which prohibited locals and distants, they would insist I could add locals with no risk.

    Again, I hope no one gets screwed over by "promises". But the law is the law.
     
  15. joshjr

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    My inpression is you can keep what you want but you can keep just HD DNS. If you want NBC then keep the SD and HD DNS and you will be fine. You can drop what ever else you want but of course you should call and talk to a qualified rep first that understands what it is you are wanting to do so that there is no confusion.
     
  16. joshjr

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    I have had no trouble losing my HD DNS feeds either. Had them before my locals launched and still have them now. I only have NBC and ABC in HD but there have been no DNS issues at this time what so ever.
     
  17. joshjr

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    Its up to you. I took screen shots of what I had active on my account as far as DNS feeds as well as you always have your bill to rely on as well. I also emailed someone over Ellen that confirmed D* will comply with the law and that my DNS feeds would not be removed if I added my locals. For me it was alot more risker in my opinion, as it was not long after the new law went into affect. I mean the DNS tool just got fixed on the website what a week ago? If you absolutely want to take zero chance of losing them then dont do it. I really didnt want to lose them either but I figured I had enough backing me up if I had a problem. To each their own. You wont know if you dont make a few calls and ask questions. I think its safe. I did it and am not looking back. Once the rest of my locals launch one of these days I will strongly consider getting rid of DNS channels all together.
     
  18. BrucePadgett

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    I wish I had your faith, joshjr. My past experience with some CSRs has given me little confidence that DirecTV will back up their promises, particularly if they've been skirting the law. I absolutely believe that the regulations concerning the distants are unfair and contradictory anyway, so DirecTV (as well as Echostar) felt comfortable implementing them as loosely as possible. Barring a lawsuit and subsequent court order such as the CBS/FOX case of about ten years ago, the DBS providers are unlikely to make moves which would cutoff a large part of the revenue stream which the DNS channels provide.
     
  19. joshjr

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    Its all good. Play it safe then and keep what you have. Its worked out for me and I am not lookig back.
     
  20. bjlc

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    well again.. two months with out being cut off, is one thing.. A year,, that's a different story.. To me, distant networks , make Directv , a head and shoulders , above everyone else.

    and I am 'suffering" because I can't get a better speed on my cpu, because I am not combining my cable, and internet with my provider.. so I am paying a steep price for 1 g speed, while others can get 3 g for "free" on their cell phones..

    the distants are the great equalizer. I am not going to screw them up.. not right now..
     

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