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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by mini1, May 8, 2004.
I don't see it as that big of a deal since it also happens to my 508, 3800, and 2700.
my vote, "like/love" but I would say I am very disapointed with the features of the 811.
no wonder, they are all Dish Network receivers. have you ever had a receiver made by someone else that you can compare to what you have now? (with no reboots needed?)
please make up you mind and cast a vote! you either overall like it or you don't.
I voted "Dislike", as the 6000 it replaced had a better picture purely because of the dark video output.
Second factor is the problematic EPG.
Third reason is the frequent "Acquiring Sat" or "Switch Test" screens. Non of these are excusable for a basic DBS receiver.
I like the 811 as I have not had most of the problems I have seen mentioned on this board. Obviously, some receivers have more problems than others. I have had mine for about 3 months and have not had to reboot. I do have the dark picture on S-Video but have a great picture with component and DVI. The guide problem was corrected for me with 265. So, except for the dark video,which I rarely use anyway, I am more than pleased with my 811.
Overall, I like the 811, but some of the bugs can get pretty annoying.
Not true... Having a thumbs up or thumbs down takes the whole middle of the curve and pushes it to the sides. Depending on people view of what like and dislike means will skew things. This is the typical thumbs up or down.. Works to give a general idea, but is useless without some info as to what made people give thumbs up or down. My guess most thumbs down folks would state because of the dark svideo.
At a minimum you should of had 4 choices. I think there is a few polls floating around these forums asking what people thought of the 811 after each software release. They give a more balanced view, however those are also not scientific. (I think I put one up myself if I recall)
I went with Like/love because for me it give a better user experience than my 6000 and I use DVI for 90% viewing. If I was using it mainly to feed a Tivo I would have chose dislike/hate. Different use cases will produce different results and trying to filter this down to thumbs up/thumbs down is not very useful.
I think other people have stated this, but mini you seem to think that pushing towards thumbs up/thumbs down will produce an answer that actually has meaning.
Java's right. (About needing more choices, that is, not on the quality of the 811. ) Personally, I would vote "dislike", as opposed to hate, or maybe "somewhat dissatisfied" in a satisfaction survey. On a scale of 1-10, maybe a 3 or 4.
No, I've only had Dish Network. I checked out Direct TV, but for the channels I want, it's more expensive than Dish. And the cable service in my area at the time I went satellite was a joke (analog only). My neighbor had Direct but cancelled after 6 months because of too many equipment problems.
so then you have nothing to compare your problems to? you don't have first hand experience with a an HD receiver that works as it should, with no reboots and minimal to no problems. seeing that, I don't see how you can say that you love/like the unit, you don't have anything to compare it to?
Good Karma...some people have it, some people don't.
I think bad Karma has a lot to do with a person's lack of success with elecronic products. For example, some people who constantly complain around here are the ones who seem to have the most problems with their stuff. Or is it the other way around? Or do some people just like to bitch more than others?
Let's take another freakin' poll.
Anyway, my 811 works just fine!
The original question for this poll was "Do you like/dislike the 811." Not "Do you like/dislike the 811 compared to another receiver." I don't have to have another receiver to compare it to to form an opinion on whether I like what it does for me, especially for $149, or at least half of what a regular OTA receiver costs.
Anyway, my 811 works just fine! [/QUOTE]
Nick, Do you want to trade?
The vast majority of problems with my 811 are related to OTA. I have learned not to leave the 811 on a OTA channel when I turn it off. When it comes back on, a check switch occurs as soon as I press the guide button. Then the guide flakes out until I switch to a satellite channel.
Is anyone else out there getting double images on multiplexed OTA digital channels (main channel and a radar channel)? On my receiver it occurs most of the time with SD material. One of the CSR's at Dish acknowledge the problem with no idea when a fix will be released. I shut my receiver off each night in hopes a magic download will fix all of the problems. :nono2:
I didnt know the prereq for the poll was that you have previous HD receiver experience. Hmmmm... Seem to be adding a lot of restrictions to the poll. Wonder if you are wanting a certain outcome. How about adding that you have 5 years of Audio/Video experience. Hmm could also add MPEG-2 experience so you can pick out the artifacts more easily.
I think people can generally make an assistment on a Consumer device without prior knowledge. Prior knowledge is helpful and add to an assistment but is not essential to making a call. The same argument you used also can be flipped and stated. "How can you vote hate/dislike if you dont' have any experience to compare to".
My 811 issues have been pretty minor, maybe it is my setup, so I thought I would list some of the differences I think probably exist between me and other 811 owners:
1. I never turn my unit off. I turn off the TV, but I really only turn off the unit when I see a software upgrade is coming. This is how I also treat my 6000. Although the 6000 gets turned off more often by accident because the remote does not have the separate TV power button and I forget to hit TV sometimes.
2. The 811 and 6000 are attached to ONLINE UPSs. I have a big online UPS in the basement that feeds my computers and video. It is in the basement since it is fairly loud. It is different from most UPSs since it does the whole circuit and it is ALWAYS running off battery. It has a 60hz sine wave converter that runs all the time. It makes extreamly stable power with no switchover time at all.
3. I did have a brief problem with 49% on my CBS station. I was able to resolve it with an adjustment to my deep fringe antenna. I have not had the 49% problem for quite a while. The 811 consistently has higher signal %s on OTA HD than my 6000. They sit about 30 feet apart and go through the same amps/splitters. On my weakest station (FOX 35 miles away 2kw DTV) the 6000 hovers around 55 the 811 will pretty much hold 65.
1. I can say that if I leave it on OTA too long and press guide I have to wait for the 1-5 aquiring to go through then the download of guide. It would be nice if it could keep the sat tuner on somehow all the time to keep it updated when on OTA, but it is probably a limitation of the chipset.
2. S-Video has the darkness (I assume composite does too) problem. The bottom 30% of the gray scale gets flattened to black. The component output is generally darker overall, but does not have the loss of lower gray scale like the Svideo. I keep it on component all the time, it is when the VCR needs to use the S-Video that I have the issue.
3. OTA analog look horrible and blockly like they are coverted to digital with a low resolution coverter. Thankfully the OTA network stations are digital and I do not have to look at them much.
4. Occasionally the guide will get mixed up, although I have not seen the problem lately, I can only assume it was an issue with the guide feed from Dish that was causing this since my 6000 was doing it also.
At first the 811 had a lot of problem which the recent software updates seem to have addressed (only one left is the darkness that really needs to be addressed). Now it actually is performing better than the 6000.
I've never seen that one... I have a local digital here that is multicasting 4 SD channels, and they all work fine on my 811.
In fact, I am getting 24 Dallas digital channels, with not a "49%" bug among them ever. That's 45 miles from the tower with a non-amplified antenna, up in the attic.
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