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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by cmtar, Feb 14, 2008.
Yes you can hook up phone and internet by this method. I have both hooked up and it works great.
The cost is about the same, maybe a little less than an N-router and adapter.
Does anyone care to comment on the speed differences between powerline and Wireless G?
My understanding is that powerline is potentially faster than G but more on par with N. If that's true it's probably cheaper, bandwith wise, for powerline.
It should go roughly
N > HomePlug AV > HomePlug 1.0 Turbo >= G > B = HomePlug 1.0
but that all depends on your environment.
Some people will see faster wireless speeds than others due to usage on those frequencies from neighbors and whatnot. Some will see faster HomePlug speeds than others due to things like electrical cabling quality. HomePlug just plain doesn't work between some outlets for some people due to the way their home is wired.
I would like recommendations as to what gear,pricewise, I would need to hook up my Hr20.
I need the most cost effective (read cheap) way as I am unemployed at this moment.
Right now I have comcast internet and the modem is sitting next to my computer which is in a different room as my Hr20. The two stores that are very close to me are BB and CC.
Is Netgear the better bet?
I'd say that is about right -- although I have found Homeplug Turbo to always be > G in real-world performance , not = . But as you note, powerline and wireless are both subject to possible contraints in one's home.
Powerline adapters are made by all the players (linksys, d-link, netgear). They are plug and play. As to being afraid to plug an Ethernet cable into one of these for fear of the 110 AC, that is silly. These things have transformers built into them. Think about it this way. You power your PC from the wall and plug Ethernet cables into it. There is circuitry in the PC to separate the voltages and type (AC and DC) there is circuitry in the powerline adapters to do the same thing.
I have found, after trying different brands, that Netgear are the best. Specifically, I use the XE103/104s and am totally satisfied with them. They're fast and reliable, and not too expensive now.
I have been using a pair of the devices which are sold by Directv as the HD DVR Networking Kit (made by tii, an OEM supplier) with my HR21 for several weeks and am quite pleased with them. The price was much less than anything I have seen from other sources ($35 for the wall model, $60 for one built into a 6-outlet powerstrip with surge protection and EMI filtering, FedEx shipping included).
Hopefully Directv has fixed their ordering system, since it took a few phone calls to get my order straightened out. When I finally received them, the installation was truly plug & play.
Stuart... looks like I'm going to try that today... I can't get my network to recognize the second Wireless gaming adaptor I added for the HR21. It connects to the network but won't connect to the internet.
So, time to try that... do you know if I can connect the wireline adaptor to a 6 outlet adaptor connected directly to the wall (without any surge protection... just converts 2 outlets to 6)?
That should work fine. As long as it is a plain 6way with no protection.
Surge protectors will really mess with them.
Thanks... I figured that that would work. Just picked up the Netgear wireline adaptors this morning. Will give it a try over the weekend.
Does anyone know if I can connect a router or ethernet switch to that wireline adaptor and run my HR20, HR21 and TiVo HD from the same line?
Sure, that will work. Anything that can plug into Ethernet will work there, including routers, switches, or other interfaces.
Anybody had experience with wireline adapters in a home that's got more than one breaker box? I have two and there is no rhyme or reason to which outlets are on each box so it is entirely possible I would have to "jump" signal from one to the other. A second question has to do with x10 lighting control. Has anyone been using a wireline adapter in a home with relatively extensive use of x10? I've got about 9 zones and 2 controllers.. have had to put a signal amp at one extreme end of the house and a filter/coupler on the clothes dryer to help deal with the issue of two breakers and the length of the wire. I don't want to introduce new "noise" on the lines that will interfere with lighting control. I have not ruled out a wireless extender yet since I've got wireless working in the house already and I've only got to get signal across a 25 ft span with no cat5.
Thanks for your comments and help.
p.s. I searched the DTV site and connot find their wireline adapters.. if somebody has a direct link, please post it or tell me what you're searching on.
First you have to be logged in to your account on the D* web site. Go to "My programming and eguipment" and then down to "Add Kits and Equipment".
It took me awhile to figure out where it was also but you can only find it once you are logged into your account.
When you say the same circuit, do you mean the same "breaker" or the same breaker panel or the same leg of the breaker panel? The Tii website claims "data at every AC receptacle". Has anyone with this setup had a different experience?
Oh by the way, I was just on the DTV site and the powerline kits are no longer there. I know where they were because I looked at them yesterday. They were with the emergency preparedness kits ( in case there is a strong enough wind that your dish is blown off of your roof you can set it up on this tripod:sure: )
Too bad, not a bad price.
See my post #35--the powerline kits are there, the powerstrip and the wall socket modules.
1) For DOD, if a get a get a wireless ethernet adapter, which simply converts the wired ethernet signal into wireless - would it be fine or should I go with the powerline solution?
2) Also - after I get the DOD working - do I need something else to connect my PC to the receiver if I want to doeload music, pix, etc? Is that called media share?
Thanks in advance!
I hear you. It's gone! I just logged on and checked again. Only the disaster recovery kit. Did you check if it was still there for you? Anyone else?