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Does direct TV know if your reciever is being used at another residence?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mxl360, Apr 27, 2008.

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  1. Apr 27, 2008 #21 of 159
    Tom Robertson

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    ChrashHD, you still are still stealing the service without paying for it. The receiver rental might be paid for, but not the service.

    So in your example, the box isn't stolen. :) I suppose that's better than stealing both the box and the service--but the service is still stolen. Illegal.

    (In my opinion.)

    Cheers,
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  2. Apr 27, 2008 #22 of 159
    RobertE

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    With the power of the almighty Google:

    http://cable.signaltheft.tv/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=3&meid=3

     
  3. Apr 27, 2008 #23 of 159
    dgordo

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    The DMCA makes this illegal.

    Edit-just saw the post by RobertE, that is the section from the DMCA that I was referring to.
     
  4. Apr 27, 2008 #24 of 159
    crashHD

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    wow...that's some pretty heavy stuff.

    Next month I'm going to visit a friend of mine who lives 2 states away for a week to help him with some home renovations. I was going to take along my dvr so in the evenings we could catch up on a past season of a tv show we both like. I was going to hook it to a sat so the only missed recordings would be locals while there...looks like not such a good idea anymore. Would that be ok if the dvr was not hooked to a satellite?
     
  5. Apr 27, 2008 #25 of 159
    Tom Robertson

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    CrashHD, one key question about your situation. Will there be anyone left at your home while you are helping your friend?

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  6. Apr 27, 2008 #26 of 159
    crashHD

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    My wife has not decided if she will come along...so maybe/maybe not.
     
  7. Apr 27, 2008 #27 of 159
    Directv superwoman

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    yes you can take your dvr on vacation but dont hook it to a dish but you can watch anything in the memory
     
  8. Apr 27, 2008 #28 of 159
    PicaKing

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    OK, it was a joke. I thought that would be obvious, but maybe not.
     
  9. Apr 27, 2008 #29 of 159
    heisman

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    I will repeat, don't listen to the ledge jumpers. You are doing nothing illegal. You are doing something against D*'s rules. Huge difference. The most they can do is shut your friends service off. In fact, it's only he that is breaking their rules, not you. It would only be illegal if your friend was selling the boxes for profit, or you were hacking the access cards. I have more experience than I care to share in this matter, but let's just say, courtesy of me, D* still bears a few ugly scars.
     
  10. Apr 27, 2008 #30 of 159
    Drew2k

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    However, after a certain period disconnected from the dish, the receiver will start to complain and will then deny playback until sat signal is again detected. (The receiver allows access without sat signal for only a relatively short period for times of rain fade, bad weather, etc.)
     
  11. Apr 27, 2008 #31 of 159
    Drew2k

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    Sorry - I didn't get that you were joking. :nono:
     
  12. Apr 27, 2008 #32 of 159
    Tom Robertson

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    You are welcome to your opinions too, but name calling is bad form and weakens your points.

    I don't know your history nor your timeline vs. the current round of DCMA laws. I still consider it an act of theft of cable service as you are not paying for the cable service. Only the mirroring/leasing fees which is very different.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  13. Apr 27, 2008 #33 of 159
    ironwood

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    This is the same as downloading free music online. Illegal but authorities cant arrest everyone.
     
  14. Apr 28, 2008 #34 of 159
    kikkenit2

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    Illegal song downloading is not a criminal offense. It is a civil infringement. They can't arrest you for this. They must sue for damages although they are pressuring congress to make it a crime.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2008 #35 of 159
    PANCHITO

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    It's as illegal as directv charging for receivers customers don't have in their account because tech forgot to deactivate when it was replace.
     
  16. Apr 28, 2008 #36 of 159
    mxl360

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    OK .. that was alot of posting.

    So to sum it up... it probably is illegal, but undetectable.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2008 #37 of 159
    Lyle Thorogood

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    So if you take your RV out on vacation with it's own receiver and travel the U.S. AND still have family at home using additional mirror'ed equipment... this is stealing as well???? So what would the difference be if you took a receiver to your vacation home for a week or month?

    Sorry but I can't see this being "illegal"... as long as the traveling receiver stays with the FAMILY it is leased to I doubt this would even be an issue. My XM Satellite recievers move around and about in my car(s), my house, my office, my parents house, friends house etc... but it stays with me and/or other family members. I pay for it and it is in MY name. I can do what I want with it.

    Now... loaning a SERVICE in your name to other individuals is SIGNAL THEFT. Utilizing SERVICE at two owned residencial addresses under the same service name would be UNETHICAL.
     
  18. Apr 28, 2008 #38 of 159
    NCMAT

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    Unless something has changed recently, I don't think the HR-2X DVRs will even boot up unless they see the 110 satellite.
     
  19. Apr 28, 2008 #39 of 159
    heisman

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    Tom,

    My apologies if you felt I was name calling. Not sure to what you are referring. You are confusing civil litigation with illegal. Illegal implies you can be arrested and put in jail. If no one profited, there is nothing illegal. Also, the OP has been given the receiver by his friend. His friend would be the only one who would be violating D*'s terms. The OP has done nothing wrong.
     
  20. Apr 28, 2008 #40 of 159
    Stuart Sweet

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    If I may jump in here, you are also bound by your customer agreement. Discussion of how to void your customer agreement is strongly frowned upon.
     
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