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Does DISH care?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by co_gooner, Sep 19, 2005.

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  1. HDJunky

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    This topic is way to funny! The soccer channel would be a complete waste of space even if it is only a SD channel, would be suprised if they got more than 1000 subscribers to that channel after a year or so if DISH did add it! Obviously you soccer nuts are not with Dish for their HD content, which is the reason i am with them.. Dish is a much better provider than Direct, and you would have to really have a screw loose to dump your service with them for 1 or 2 channels, but hey thats what i think! LONG LIVE DISH THE NEW HD LEADER!
     
  2. SimpleSimon

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    Half-wrong - it's not after each run, but after a scoring play. ;)

    Weird sport - you can make different amount of points for the same play.
     
  3. Slamminc11

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    I said score, not run.
     
  4. co_gooner

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    You Americans are so hillarious, why don't you take your blinkers off and take a look at the outside world - hey, go mad, be in the minority get a passport; there's a whole world out there waiting to be explored - you may have to open your minds though, scary thought that may be!!
     
  5. jrbdmb

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    If "droves" of people are leaving E* because they don't have the Setanta channel, perhaps it balances out with the "droves" leaving D* every day because they don't offer HBO Comedy or the Style Network. :)

    Even for soccer fans, viewership for this channel is going to be really small - and the major Setanta events are still on PPV only.
     
  6. Stewart Vernon

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    I think I am always open minded... and fully acknowledge the sport's popularity outside the US. It's just painfully clear that for as much as Soccer has been tried here in my lifetime, it just never catches on. From the "old days" I remember Pele... but virtually nothing else from that time period... and I know of no one in the current league (MLS).

    I don't like Hockey either... but somehow it is reasonably popular. I also never get NASCAR, bunch of cars driving around in circles really fast for hours... and I'm in the south practically where NASCAR was born!

    The UNC women's soccer team has won nearly every NCAA championship since the inception of the tournament... but even though I live less than a half hour from their campus I still hear very little about soccer where I live!

    It's just a reality check thing... whether it is people in the US rejecting an international sport or whatever... it just isn't that popular beyond people who recently have moved here from another country.

    What I *really* can't explain, though, is how many young kids I've seen for the last 15+ years who play soccer every weekend... there are lots of kids' leagues and parks are full every weekend around here... yet most of these kids do not continue to have an interest in soccer outside of that... they don't watch on TV and they don't play when they are grown up.

    That's the strange part to me... is the interest at a young age that seemingly disappears.
     
  7. SimpleSimon

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    Not strange to me, when they grow up their moms are no longer forcing them to endure the ultimate boredom that is soccer. :D :D :D

    Just kidding - to each their own - as long as I don't have to pay for it!
     
  8. JPointerWI

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    GolTV IS on Dish, channel 407, part of americas top 180
     
  9. kevruth

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    That person knows that. What Dishnetwork soccer fans want is for them to add Setanta Sports.
     
  10. EricD

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    Also, check the schedule for international channels. Although they are not sports channels, many of them play soccer matches commercial free. TV5, for example, played most of the European Cup. And you may learn another language in the process (how go you say "goal" in spanish?)
     
  11. Chandu

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    BTW, DISH has now added ESPN Deportes and ESPNU. I don't think they'll come around to adding Setanta USA. But as someone else pointed out before, you don't need DirecTV to get Setanta USA. A Globecast dish can get Setanta USA a-la-carte.

    I think it will only be a matter of time before DISH adds ESPN2-HD. That will leave only TyC Sports as a major soccer channel which won't be on DISH.

    To other schmoes who think nobody watches shaahkar in the US or none of the programming executives make any decisions about it, should I be required to apologize for your ignorance? Or does it serve as a validation for your reality?
     
  12. Darkman

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    Welcome to DBSTalk, Chandu! :welcome_s
     
  13. garypen

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    What's so hard to understand? The two companies offer most of the same general programming, with DirecTV actually offering a little more, for approximately the same cost. However, each company has certain offerings not available on the other service.

    So, if one or two of the specialty channels are only offered on one of the two services, it makes perfect sense to switch, especially with the new customer promos that are offered.

    Some examples of the differences in specialty channels:

    DirecTV offers more sports programming, with Setanta, YES, and NFL Sunday Ticket being the most obvious. However, Dish has narrowed the sports gap slightly by adding ESPNU and CSTV.

    Dish offers many more International channels than DirecTV, including many International sports PPV such as Cricket and Rugby, which may not be available on DirecTV. However, DirecTV has added many International channels recently, including SBS from Korea.

    Dish offers many more shopping channels because they pay Dish to broadcast them. DirecTV prefers to use the bandwidth for other purposes.

    Dish offers many more Public Interest channels, because they are legally bound to.

    DirecTV has all four major networks in HD, with a number of DMA's local nets in HD on the way. Dish has CBS-HD. Conversely, Dish offers 10 of the Voom Originals, while DirecTV offers none.

    Wanting any one of those speccialty channels is a perfectly valid reason to switch to/from either service.
     
  14. Chandu

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    Thanks! Cheers!!!
     
  15. auburn2

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    I would rather have E* HD picture quality over D* with a larger channel lineup.

    I watch ESPN HD regularly and it is a lot better on E* than D*. D* is willing to sacrifice bandwidth and picture quality to get more channels.

    I would never watch the soccer channels even if I had em, so E* lack of offering them does not bother me. I actually prefer it this way since they would only serve to lower the available bandwidth for the other channels.

    D* is probably the better pick for you folks out there who want/need the programming not available on E*.
     
  16. Chandu

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    Well, one thing I'm very happy about E* is that their channel space isn't cluttered with unwanted things like NFL Sunday ticket for me. And the HD picture of RUSH-HD on E* is freaking cool, especially for those La Liga matches.
     
  17. 2devnull

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    That's crazy talk. When last did DISH offer proper cricket? I switch to DTV just because they have the cricket ticket which are resonably priced compared to what DISH wanted when they carried it a few years ago. DISH currently does not carry any live international cricket as far as I know.
     
  18. johnbelt28

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    D* totally smokes E* on Cricket and Rugby PPV's.D* has shown the PPV from Setanta that dish doesn't show since Setanta went with D*.Dish will show England World Cup qualifiers that Fox Soccer Channel ofers but not the ones Setanta offers.
     
  19. Chandu

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    As I told you on another thread, that is incorrect. Both of them have some coverage, and unfortunately it is split up.

    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packages/international_services_cricket.jsp

    http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/programming/ppv/sports_events/cricket/index.shtml

    I wish there was unified coverage available on at least one of them, or preferably both.

    More or less true, by looking at above links. But it's simply not true that there is no live coverage on DISH (as 2devnull had stated).
     
  20. 2devnull

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    Yep, Chandu is correct and he did provide a link where DISH is carrying the Super Series and aparently all Pakistan home games. I left DISH in August after years of no cricket. If I am not mistaken, up until this Super Series and they are yet to broadcast a Pakistan home series, DISH has very rarely carry any cricket at all. Also, DISH wants you to buy the entire tour rather than being able to buy each match separately.

    Whoever is allowing DISH exclusivity on tours such as what Pakistan and the Super Series has done for DISH to carry it for one enornmous fee for the entire tour is just idiotic. I mean, how much bloody dishes do I need on my damn roof?
     
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