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Does HR21-700 support eSata?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by marathonman89, Nov 16, 2007.

  1. CCarncross

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    The drives dont get software updates anyway, its stored on a chip. If you upgrade the software with drive "A" in use, reboot the box with drive "B" active, its still is on the new software version.
     
  2. Richierich

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    When you plug in the Esata Cable and Reboot the DVR detects activity on the Esata Port and then ignores the Internal Drive completely (even though the internal drive is spinning but just not used).

    When it detects the external drive, it sees if it is formatted and if not it formats it and then copies operating software from the chip to the drive and then it is good to go.

    You will not have your saved recordings on the external drive or user settings so they have to be redone.

    You can always go back to your internal drive by unplugging your Esata cable in order to view the recordings you have on the internal drive.
     
  3. harsh

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    The first paragraph was OK, but the second paragraph deviates from reality in a couple of important ways.

    1. No receiver software is stored on the hard drive as part of the formatting process.
    2. Your saved recordings and the recording preferences at that point remain on the internal drive and will be available when you properly remove the eSATA drive. You cannot access them as long as the external drive is active, but they're there nonetheless.
     
  4. Richierich

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    There is operating software stored on the chip and it is used in formatting the drive.

    I stated correctly that you will not have saved recordings available on the external drive as they are not transferred during the formatting process but do remain on the internal drive and can be viewed by rebooting the DVR without the external drive being plugged in.

    Do a search on my posts and you will see I was one of the first to use the esata drive and I have extensive posts on this subject.
     
  5. harsh

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    You stated that it "copies operating software from the chip to the drive".
    That's not what your message said before you edited it this morning. The implication was that the programming was gone (ie. "you will not have your saved recordings").

    Here's the full text of the message that I replied to a quote from:
     
  6. gully_foyle

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    I bought the MX-1 on sale at Fry's along with a Seagate ST310005N1A1AS kit, also on sale.

    Works OK, but BOY is the drive noisy. I can hear it go thunka-thunk even though it's inside a cabinet 10 feet away.

    Is there a drive that is REALLY quiet inside a MX-1 case?
     
  7. SubSlr08

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    The Cavalry 1tb external eSATA units are super-quiet. The drive is actually a WD and I guess you could buy one of those to replace your noisy drive in the MX enclosure rather then replace the whole thingy. I believe the WD drive is a WD10EACS - available for about $240 at NewEgg.com
    Good luck!
     
  8. IwantmyTHX

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    FWIW I got the Seagate ST3750640AS-RK in an MX-1 and I never hear it. It is on its side between the Receiver and the TV on an open shelf.
     
  9. Mr_Movie_Dog

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    For $10 more you could have got twice the drive in performance if you would have got this Seagate drive ST3750330AS and for longer life and continuous operation the network/server version Seagate ST3750330NS for $50 more would be a even better choice, if it has a "NS" it is made for continuous operation "RAID type drive" with a much long MTBF "AS" is the cheaper desktop drive.

    I've built and supported thousands of PC's and Servers yearly and Seagate is a much better drive then WD's are and they tend to be cheaper as well. The one issue you need to be aware of is that if you buy a Seagate drive retail or oem it most probably will be jumpered for compatibility mode so you may need to remove the jumper before installing it so that you are interfacing the drive in SATA II mode instead of SATA I.

    Has anyone used this external enclosure "AMS DS-2350S Aluminum Black eSATA 5 bay SATA Enclosure - Retail "? I would like to throw 5 1TB Seagates in it using JBOD so that I don't loose drive space by striping with RAID.

    Newegg has it for $218 and you can use it in hotswap if you wish to RAID.

    "newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817332017"
     
  10. Kilgore Trout

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    Many thanks for this thread.

    I have two HR-21's and want to put a new drive on one of them. From reading this thread there seems to be a general consensus that the MX-1 enclosure is a good idea along with a sata drive. Is this configuration preferred over an external drive? Are there pro's and cons to using an external drive or the MX-1? It also seems that the drive needs to be 3.0. Are there other performance requirements or recommendations? Do I need to avoid the cheaper drives and spend the money on a drive that has better numbers or does that not make a difference as long as you have the 3.0?

    Thanks for any help.

    K
     
  11. freddie03

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    I have not been able to use a 1TB Seagate on the HR21...
    works great with the HR20....
    should i give up?
    Can anyone help with the HR21 and Seagate 1TB ST310005PA1E3-RK model?
     
  12. freddie03

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    I have not been able to use a 1TB Seagate on the HR21...
    works great with the HR20....
    should i give up?
    Can anyone help with the HR21 and Seagate 1TB ST310005PA1E3-RK model?
    I have not been able to use a 1TB Seagate on the HR21...
    works great with the HR20....
    should i give up?
    Can anyone help with the HR21 and Seagate 1TB ST310005PA1E3-RK model?

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    ... best in the verse' .... D*TV is, yes?

    peace & be safe
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  13. Wrangor

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    Alright - I am a technical idiot compared to most of you, so please help me. I have read through this thread, and followed the instructions on purchasing a WD 1TB Hard Drive and coupling it with an Antec Enclosure. After the quick installation the unit is running great. I hooked it up to my Direct TV HR-21 and once again it worked perfect.

    The problem I am having is that I cannot get my PC (Dell XPS 420 w/ Windows Vista) to recognize the drive where I can view the files. If I format the drive (erasing all the data) my computer will recognize it as a hard drive and allow me to use it as such, but once I hook it up to my DVR it is reformatted (I believe) in order to save the programs from the DVR. The WD Hard Drive will show up in my 'Disk Management' as 'Disk 1', but the drive will not show up in the 'My Computer' section where I can upload the videos from the hard drive to my computer.

    PLEASE HELP... I have spent 4-5 hours today trying to figure it out, and I need some help. Step by step instructions would be a LIFESAVER.

    Thanks for the great thread, and thank you in advance for any help that you are able to offer me.
     
  14. russdog

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    Windows needs it formatted one way.
    The HR21 needs if formatted a different way.
    Not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but you're basically trying to do 2 incompatible things at once.
    Here's what I'd do: Pick one and stick with it.
    If you're trying to watch the HR21's recordings on your PC by pulling them up in Windows, well, you can't.
     
  15. Wrangor

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    Again - I apologize for the novice nature of these questions. It has probably already been addressed in other threads before. There is no solution to allow your computer to read the video files that are downloaded from the HR21?
     
  16. russdog

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    Nope.
    D* is working on a software tool that will let you watch D* recordings on your PC, but only via a local network.
    It's not quite ready yet.
    Even when it is ready, you will not be able to have Windows read the files on the hard drive and do anything with them.
    Rather, the HR21 will send the playback over your home network to your PC.
     
  17. Wrangor

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    Dang...thanks for the info. Atleast I now have a 1TB Hard Drive for my HR-21, but was hoping to be able to cut up sporting events and burn them to a DVD. Oh well.
     
  18. russdog

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    They'd poke themselves in the eyeballs with sharp knives before they'd let you use your PC to do that (or anything else) with their digital files ;-)
     
  19. jdouglas2000

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    So the Seagate Pro external drive models still do not work with the HR21-700? Guess I should never assume that an e-sata plug means any e-sata drive should work when it comes to Direct TV DVR's. Sort of depressing that you have to be a computer techie to do something simple like this very easily. And of course the manual says nothing about it except "for future use".
     
  20. russdog

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    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=142735
     

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