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Does HR21-700 support eSata?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by marathonman89, Nov 16, 2007.

  1. Dec 5, 2007 #41 of 205
    stewp97

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    Well, I can tell you tomorrow as that is when my FAP and SIIG cable will be delivered!

    I really didn't intend to bash DirecTV or this forum regarding this problem. It is just a little frustrating that I did not do my homework with this one and I assumed it would work because it has thus far on my HR20-700! I really do appreciate DirecTV giving us the option of using external drives and this forum for giving people the opportunity to speak up on what works and what doesn't.

    Thank you to all that have posted working setups and not working setups!

    peter
     
  2. Dec 5, 2007 #42 of 205
    pjo1966

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    Please keep us posted. I was going to return the FAP drive today, but if there's hope I'll hang on to it for a few days.
     
  3. Dec 6, 2007 #43 of 205
    shendley

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    Thanks for posting this! This is exciting news. I've had a problem with my HR20 that the techs haven't been able to fix (with an intermittent black screen on mpeg2 hd channels on one tuner). They recommended trying an HR21. I resisted doing this since I don't want to lose my FAP (well, there are a few other things I would miss as well like OTA, but it was the FAP that was the deal breaker for me). I may have to give it a try now. But, just to make sure, is this the cable you're using that works? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812191016

    I've been using a Tripp Lite esata cable very successfully with my HR20: http://www.amazon.com/36IN-Esata-Signal-Cable-7PIN/dp/B000IAJZ76/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196966777&sr=8-2. I bought it because I heard good things about it on this board. Does anyone have any experience using this cable with a FAP and an HR21? I'd be interested to know if it's confirmed that this cable doesn't work before I buy the one from Newegg.

     
  4. Dec 6, 2007 #44 of 205
    stewp97

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    Well, my results are in. The FAP 750 with the SIIG cable did not work for me either. When I fired it up it seemed to work OK until I check some recordings. The two test recordings I tried would not play. Then I tried to rewind the program I was watching. Nothing. I guess it was not writing anything to the FAP. I went ahead and rebooted the receiver. When it came online, it was back on the internal drive. I rebooted it again with the same result. I guess I have a new drive to backup my files at work now.

    Time to look at the enclosure solution.

    peter
     
  5. Dec 6, 2007 #45 of 205
    strandboy

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    Hey folks,

    The SIIG cable got here a few minutes ago and was able to confirm the FAP works with this cable and the HR21. I now have 2 working systems (and one happy camper):
    • upstairs: FAP + SIIG esata to esata cable + HR21-700;
    • downstairs: Antex MX-1 (included cable) + WD 1TB sata drive + HR21-700.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2007 #46 of 205
    GAM

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    Dueling posts... :grin:
     
  7. Dec 6, 2007 #47 of 205
    strandboy

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    I'm sorry to hear that. Mine worked just fine. Just to clarify, my FAP was brand new outta the box. Something in your post made me curious: the recordings you tested, were those recorded onto your FAP from another DVR? If so, I don't think those would work and I'm not sure how it works (if at all) if you're trying to use an external drive with one dvr that had already been used/formatted with another DVR.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2007 #48 of 205
    strandboy

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    no good deed goes unpunished :(
     
  9. Dec 6, 2007 #49 of 205
    shendley

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    At least we know of one person getting the FAP to work with the 21. Now to figure out why it works in one case but not the other . . .

     
  10. Dec 6, 2007 #50 of 205
    strandboy

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    I will follow up with very specific model/item number info off of each part.
     
  11. Dec 6, 2007 #51 of 205
    stewp97

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    Yes, the FAP was NIB. The recordings were made after it came online. I checked the list prior to starting a recording to verify it was the new drive. It was blank. Maybe I will try it again tonight. It's worth another shot I guess!

    FWIW, these numbers were taken off the order confirmations, not the packaging:
    Cable: CABLE SIIG|CB-SA0111-S1
    Drive: SGE 307504FPA1E2


    peter
     
  12. Dec 6, 2007 #52 of 205
    strandboy

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    Interesting. I've been testing mine with the new cable. When I used the cable that came with my mx-1 it was flawless. It seems a little less stable now with the SIIG cable but it does work. It seemed to freeze up while I was recording 2 programs simultaneously and going through the guide. I had to unplug the power on the hr21 to get it back. That said, once it all came back online, I was still able to view previous recordings (it even resumed recording that it was in the middle of when I unplugged). I also started recording 2 brand new programs simultaneously and was pretty hard on it going through the guide, viewing previous recordings, going back and forth in the buffer for recordings underway, etc and it seems ok. I'll keep hammering on it and report back later tonight. I may also try switching the SIIG cable with the mx-1 cable to see if that has any affect.

    Part numbers:
    SIIG (identical to yours): CB-SA0111-S1
    FAP: ST307504FPA1E3-RK, serial number: 5QD02LRG, part number: 9NG7AR-570
     
  13. Dec 6, 2007 #53 of 205
    jeffTHX

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    I have an HR-2x scheduled to be installed next week. I already bought a 750gb FAP, which is still sitting in the box. I have requested that the installer bring out an HR-20, but I wouldn't care if he ended up bringing an HR-21 instead (I'm keeping my old HR-10 hooked up for OTA).

    Are there any widespread reports of people having issues with the enclosure setup and the HR-21 (or HR-20)? I'm wondering if I should just return the FAP and go ahead and order the MX-1 and a 750gb SATA drive. If I do get an HR-20, I can just use the FAP and avoid the hassle of returning it, ordering the new ones, etc. If I get an HR21, however, it sounds like the only sure way to know that the drive will work is to build my own.

    The cost of the MX-1 and a Seagate 750 GB drive would be within $10 of what I paid to get the FAP. Is there any compelling reason to keep the FAP, especially given that I don't know which model DVR I'll end up getting?

    Thanks,
    Jeff
     
  14. Dec 6, 2007 #54 of 205
    strandboy

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    Hi Jeff,

    I've been testing both almost all day. While the FAP works, it's proving to be finicky with the SIIG cable. The mx-1 with the sata drive is much more stable. I set it up a couple of days ago, have recorded a ton and haven't touched it and, as you can tell from others, the mx-1 is a big thumbs up. While I still think that (if I could find the exact cable that comes with the mx-1 enclosure) I can get the FAP to be stable, the mx-1 with the sata drive is probably the way to go.

    --s
     
  15. Dec 7, 2007 #55 of 205
    stewp97

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    Well, I messed around with mine again last night. I could not get it to record anything including on the live buffer. I checked it this morning and even the pause button is not working. I have about given up!

    peter
     
  16. Dec 7, 2007 #56 of 205
    marathonman89

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    FYI /Follow Up - The 1TB (Raid) Simple Tech Duo Pro External Hard Drive has been recording on both HR71 tuners for 3 days with no problems. As of this post I tally approximately 141 hours of recording and 21% space remaining. Since there has been so much talk about cables I thought I would mention that I am using a generic cable bought on eBay for $3.00.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2007 #57 of 205
    pjo1966

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    Have you done a reboot at any point? My FAP worked fine until the first reboot, then the HR21 stopped seeing the drive.
     
  18. Dec 7, 2007 #58 of 205
    strandboy

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    I think that's similar to what I'm seeing. Do you guys notice what appears to be a slight power cycle of the FAP when you reboot the hr21? It doesn't completely shutoff but just for a sec. I don't recall this with the first cable I used to get it to work. I might not have been paying attention though
     
  19. Dec 7, 2007 #59 of 205
    GAM

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  20. Dec 7, 2007 #60 of 205
    strandboy

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    Thanks GAM, jibes very much with what I'm seeing. I just wish I could explain why it was flawless with the cable from the mx-1. Probably just dumb, dumb luck. :nono2: But it has me so curious. I'm picking up another mx-1 and worst case I'll just get another WD 1TB sata drive, return the FAP and be done with it. However, while I've got it, I'd like to try a couple of things starting with just using that cable again. If that doesn't work, my last ditch effort will be to try ripping the drive outta the FAP and installing that in the mx-1 (as described by others on the forum).

    Question: would it be logical that the power up/down problems would be related directly to the FAP enclosure?


    Will report more once the enclosure arrives.

    --s
     

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