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Does it make sense to have signal on 110/119, but not 101?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by pdxBeav, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. Sep 3, 2013 #1 of 16
    pdxBeav

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    I have a unique situation where I'm installing a second dish on my workshop because it's easier than running a 200' cable from my other install. I've always installed my own dishes because I like to do that kind of stuff. :righton:

    But I was running out of daylight last night so I haven't had time to debug further, but on the H25's signal strength screens I had 80/90+ on 110 and 119, but 0 on 101. The receiver is configured for the correct dish type (Slimline 5 SWM). Just wondering if it's even possible I could have pointed to a different satellite which would show readings on 110 and 119, but NOT 101. I don't know if these signal strength screens positively check for the correct satellite or just a signal. I guess what I really want to know is if it's possible for a misaligned dish to exhibit this type of behavior. Thanks!
     
  2. Sep 3, 2013 #2 of 16
    peds48

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    Sure, anything can be possible, specially if something is blocking LOS to the 101


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  3. Sep 3, 2013 #3 of 16
    pdxBeav

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    There are no LOS obstructions.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2013 #4 of 16
    HoTat2

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    My guess is that your dish azimuth is too far east and the 110 LNB is probably aimed and picking up three transponders from 101 and maybe the three 110 transponders are now being picked up by the 119 LNB.

    Try moving the azimuth of your dish about 9 degrees west to pick up 101.

    EDIT: Post corrected to what VOS suggested later.
     
  5. Sep 3, 2013 #5 of 16
    P Smith

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    cover 110 and 119 LNBFs first, then aim the dish to 101W with all tpns at max level
     
  6. Sep 3, 2013 #6 of 16
    veryoldschool

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    This is sort of a waste as it won't help.
    "More than likely" the dish is pointed too far east and covering the 110 & 119 won't change any readings.

    the sign of this is if 119 only has three reading.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2013 #7 of 16
    P Smith

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    why not ? if you could select 101W's in signal screen and then it would command SWiM to pick 101 signals ... or I'm mentaly stuck with old switching ?
     
  8. Sep 4, 2013 #8 of 16
    veryoldschool

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    it all comes down to which LNB is pointing at which SAT.
    Covering an LNB or which SAT you select doesn't really change anything.

    If the 101 LNB is pointed at the 110 SAT, it will show the three TP [though not as 8, 10, & 12] from the 110 SAT.

    This will be the same whether a legacy combo LNB or SWiM.
     
  9. Sep 4, 2013 #9 of 16
    P Smith

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    that would be a valuable point of using the method (by cover 110/119 LNBFs) - easy distinguish what sat you are pointing by number of tpns; 101W: 30..32 (depend of SB in your area), 110W: 3 (fixed number) and 119W - 7...8 {?}
     
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    This would only be valid if you were using something that didn't power/switch the LNBs, like a SA.
    If you're using a receiver or meter that is sending out the 13/18 volt, tone/no tone, you "know" which LNB you're using.
    "OK" if you're looking at either the 110 or 119, "then" covering an LNB would help, but the question was about 101.
    If you've selected an LNB, but have it pointed at the wrong SAT, you'll still get the signal(s) from the wrong SAT.
     
  11. P Smith

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    Follow this ... and my point is: counting number of tpns with signal levels you would get clear understanding what sat you got. Right ? ;)
    That would mean exactly sat direction of the aimed dish with one not covered LNBF. Right ?
     
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    This would be true without covering a LNB, right?
    This was why I said covering an LNB was a waste of time.
     
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    And wouldn't it be fair to add that with such a misalignment 110 may actually show between 2 to 3 strong transponder readings at a given location considering that tps. 26 and 28 are spot beams at 101?
     
  14. P Smith

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    OK. That would be easy for TS, no need to go high :).
     
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    "Fair" possibly, but not much help to the OP. :lol:
     
  16. HoTat2

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    Yeah, and make that "2 to 3" transponders since 110 picks up tps. 28, 30, and 32, LOL
     

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