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does this install look solid? help!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by bender73, Oct 11, 2007.

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  1. techrep

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    Get what you can out of them at this point. You have already crawled into the confined attic space once and can do so again if you have to. It should not be that hard to run cable from there to your loft and then put up at least one monopole on the dish. I am not saying that they should be allowed to sluf off. I am saying, that by now, Your motto is probably: "Get'er done."
     
  2. bender73

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    can they run another cable off of the dish for a plain old receiver? the loft and dish are about 20 feet apart (and through 2 walls).
     
  3. techrep

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    There is a multiswitch built into the LNB and it has four outputs and will supply all signals to 4 inputs. The DVR's take two inputs each and the standard receivers require only one each. So, yes they can until the four ourputs at the dish are used up. If you need to feed more than 4 inputs then you will need the WB68 multiswitch (probably in the attic) installed.

    As for the cable run, I visualize that running from the attic (that you crawled into) to the attic over your loft and down the (inside) wall. If the loft has a barn type ceiling, it will probably be best to mount the rough in (plastic outlet) box in the angled ceiling six inches above the point where it joins the wall.
     
  4. bender73

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    well, the third installer came and installed 2 monopoles. he (like the guy before) was bad-mouthing the previous installers. this guy was pretty cool though. he installed the ground wire that was never done as well. i decided that he not drill another big hole through the side of the townhouse because there are enough holes up there already that i will have to repair when the dish is removed after i move on to a bigger home.

    so, for now, i just have to connect/re-connect the coax in the basement and up in the loft. not a big deal since i rarely watch TV in the loft. i mainly use it for internet and if i really want TV while the wife and i use the treadmill. it's not a big enough issue for me to warrant more holes to fix later.

    here we are, finally fully secured...

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    between the poles and the internal work i did, this should be 100% secure. now let's just worry about new england snow!!! Ahhh!!!
     
  5. Canis Lupus

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    Nice! Those pictures don't seem to indicate any bad weather or snow in the area so you're good for today at least! :lol:
     
  6. techrep

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    "Nothing but blue skies, coming your way"

    Looks good and he even got the monopole wood screws in a stud. Now you can rest easy and watch some HD. :)
     
  7. bender73

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    the neighbors are gonna love the addition of more metal. :)
     
  8. joe diamond

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    Those monopoles end up as a band aid.
    The only place you end up mounting them is in roof deck or soffit board. Neither is structurally designed for the load these things could exert. It is not the weight of the rig but rather the load and unload force of wind that tears these suckers down.
    I just know DTV skipped the tripod mount for money reasons. Every now and then you still see a Primestar dish on a roof. The tripod legs are still attached to studs going on what ,10 years? And probably leaking by now.

    Joe
     
  9. Smooth Jazzer

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    bender73:
    I talked to you before about this. The supporting arms are a big improvement. WHY didn't the installer/tech attach a third arm from the center to the back and screwed it down to the roof? That way it gives the set-up almost a 360º protection. I also told you about the wind like joe diamond mentioned. I hate to scare you but isn't Mass "home" to nasty northeastern mean winds?
    Good luck!
     
  10. bender73

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    can't touch the roof (per condo board). they already don't like the way it is. i have to respect their rules. in fact, i am the only one with a dish and i think i am grandfathered in because they don't like it. i already have a signed permission form/contract that i made prior to this install. it says i cannot touch the roof.
     
  11. randyk47

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    Just got through our first substantial wind event since my install a couple of weeks ago. Heavy rain and high winds with gusts up to 45+ MPH. Strong enough at my house to knock over a large potted bush on my patio which takes both my wife and I to move. Also rearranged some of the patio furniture. The new dish is obviously higher up and not as protected as my backyard so I was concerned when I entered the house and looked at the mess around the pool area. Went out and looked at the dish and all seemed well. Cranked up the TV and ran signal strength. Spot on across the board. I'd kind of been waiting for one of these windy days and this one assailed the dish from the northwest so it hit it with pretty much full force. Happy camper to get through that and see it held up.
     
  12. TheRatPatrol

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    randyk47, did something similar on my house too (see below).

    Question, can you install monopoles after the dish is up, or do you have to take the dish off of the pole in order to slide the monopole on?

    Thanks
     

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  13. diggerg56

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    You can do it without doing anything to the dish with no problem. The "ring" that goes around the J Mast can be removed (unbolted) from the rest of the monopole and slipped around the J-Mast.
     
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    That's correct. The ring is split so you simply unbolt it from the pole and slip it around the mast.
     
  15. TheRatPatrol

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    digger, randy, thanks.

    Any rule of thumb when installing them?
     
  16. randyk47

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    Obviously it has to be anchored well where it attachs to the house and the mast but the failure I've heard of most often, and it really isn't that frequent, is folks not tightening the adjustment bolt enough. If that's lose or comes loses then the pole just slides back and forth like a piston and the whole purpose of the monopole is defeated. Make sure you get some primer and paint on the wood you used. Realize Phoenix isn't exactly wet but you don't want the wood to rot.
     
  17. TheRatPatrol

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    Yes sir, I got primer and paint on the wood already, those pics were taken right after my friend and I built it. Actually, being the retired engineer, he built it, I just assisted. :)

    Thanks again.
     
  18. Mike500

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    We make these custom mounting foot bases from standard ones. They fit over the gable rake board, The foot makes full contact with the wood. Using #14x3 inch long hardened steel hex drive screws, we can get three in a line trough the rake board and the siding into the meat of the 2x lumber of the rafter. Using 5 or 6 of the screws makes for a very solid mount. And, we add the monopoles with the same screws into the rafters.
     

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