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Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Aduio Formated Movies

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by smiddy, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Since Santa was kind enough to give me a BDP-S550 for Christmas I have been wondering what movies are available and which ones are coming with the 7.1 sound mix. I have only one, Rush Hour 3, and it wasn't as impressive as I had hoped.

    What movies are available in these formats?

    What movies are coming in these formats?

    Which movie is your favorite in these formats for sound dispersion?

    Are you using analog or HDMI?

    Any information would be very helpful, thanks! :)
     
  2. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    Are you asking about TrueHD/dts-HD or 7.1?
     
  3. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    If you're just looking for lossless audio, there's hundreds. If you're specifically looking for 7.1, you have these:

    3:10 to Yuma
    Bangkok Dangerous
    The Bank Job
    The Bird with the Crystal Plumage
    Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
    The Condemned
    Dark City
    The Eye
    The Forbidden Kingdom
    The Golden Compass
    Hairspray
    Hellboy II
    Mr. Woodcock
    Nightmare before Christmas
    The Orphanage
    Pans Labyrinth
    Rambo
    Rush Hour 3
    Saw IV
    Semi-Pro
    Shoot Em Up
    War
    Sleeping Beauty

    It's basically just Lionsgate and New Line that have put out 7.1 movies. Of all of those listed, I don't think any of them have reference sound, with the exception of Hellboy II.

    Having 7.1 does not mean it will sound great. I'd rather have reference 5.1 audio and matrix it into 7.1 via THX Cinema2 or ProLogicIIx.

    The following are only 5.1, but will blow away most of the 7.1 tracks listed above:

    APOCALYPTO (LPCM)
    BAND OF BROTHERS (DTS-HD:MA)
    BLACK HAWK DOWN (LPCM)
    CLOVERFIELD (TrueHD)
    THE DARK KNIGHT (TrueHD)
    DIE HARD 4.0 (DTS-HD:MA)
    THE INCREDIBLE HULK (DTS-HD:MA)
    KUNG FU PANDA (TrueHD)
    MASTER & COMMANDER (DTS-HD:MA)
    THE MATRIX (TrueHD)
    MATRIX RELOADED (TrueHD)
    MATRIX REVOLUTIONS (TrueHD)
    MR. & MRS. SMITH (DTS-HD:MA)
    RATATOUILLE (LPCM)
    TRANSFORMERS (TrueHD)
    U-571 (DTS-HD:MA)
     
  4. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    7.1, thanks spartanstew!

    Ah, ok, I have Star Wars: Clone Wars I need to watch it (the only BluRay with THX).

    What is meant by Reference Audio?
     
  5. Alan Gordon

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    Pretty much every new Lionsgate releases have 7.1 DTS-HD MA sound. Please note that the company that does their encoding ACTUALLY creates NEW 7.1 soundtracks for their titles... meaning that the 7.1 is not just "matrixed".

    New Line Home Video also used to provide 7.1 DTS-HD MA for ALL their titles. Mi Casa, the company that does their encoding ACTUALLY created NEW 7.1 soundtracks for their titles... meaning that the 7.1 is not just "matrixed". However, since New Line was folded into Warner Bros., Mi Casa no longer does their encoding, and they've started using either 5.1 Dolby TrueHD or 640k 5.1 Dolby Digital.

    For a list of available/upcoming 7.1 titles (DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, and PCM), click here: 7.1 MOVIES

    For a list of available/upcoming 6.1 titles (DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, and PCM), click here: 6.1 MOVIES

    Note that there may be a mistake or two in there, so you might want to double-check reviews and the like. It also does not include "imports".

    You can feel safe that all NEW release titles (premiering for the first time on Blu-ray as well as DVD) from Lionsgate will have 7.1 DTS-HD MA.

    Blue Underground seems to be fond of 7.1 even for their catalog titles.

    Universal has played around with 7.1 sound on "Hellboy II", but that's it.

    Disney however seems to be getting in the 7.1 spirit with some of their newer releases like the newest "Narnia" movie, "The Nightmare Before Christmas", "Wall-E", and of course, "Pinocchio" coming out in March.

    Other than that, not much.

    As for your other questions, I do not have "lossless" audio available to me at the time as I'm currently using a PS3 for my Blu-ray viewing along with an older AVR... without HDMI.

    ~Alan
     
  6. Alan Gordon

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    If a title is reference in 5.1, there's no reason it won't be reference in 7.1.

    There are advantages in having 7.1 "lossless" soundtrack over a "matrixed" 5.1 "lossless" soundtrack due to the fact that your rear speakers won't be transmitting discrete "lossless" sound.

    That being said, the number of titles where it will make a difference are slim due to the fact that MOST films were MIXED for 5.1, so very little sound will truly be used in the rear speakers. Still, if given a choice, I'd take "lossless" 7.1 soundtracks over a "matrixed" version any day.

    ~Alan
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    "Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" is THX as well. I was wanting to say there was one or two more, but I think I'm getting confused.

    Well, technically, "reference audio" is audio identical to the source, though I believe, in this case, spartanstew was using it to refer to "demo" material.

    ~Alan
     
  8. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    Correct, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

    Correct again.
     
  9. Alan Gordon

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    You didn't! Think of what I said as more of an addition/elaboration that I wanted to add! ;)

    ~Alan
     
  10. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Thanks Guys, you are a huge help!

    I didn't notice the Indian Jones movie had THX...

    I was having problems getting the 7.1 working but now I've cracked that nut in a manner of speaking. I'm using analogs to my AVR-5805 so I have set up the BDP to give it priority and produce direct. Now I'm hearing more things, very kewl stuff!

    Thanks again gentlemen!
     
  11. DCSholtis

    DCSholtis Up The Irons!

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    Another title with THX, although it is an import is T2 Premium Edition from Japan.
     
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  13. Lord Vader

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    I wonder what the buzz is about any of the 6 Star Wars movies ever being released in Blu-Ray. The fact that George Lucas has always been on the forefront of digital technology and all would lead one to believe he'd want to get his movies out in BD and reap another pile of profit.
     
  14. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    I would think you are correct. My son simply loves these movies and I can only imagine him wanting this series on BluRay. We did get Clone Wars but that isn't the same being an animation.
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

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    There's a bunch of those kinds of movies still in the "pending" bucket...including all the Star Wars movies, E.T., and others.....from what I've read in the past...there has been an intentional decision not to release these in HD disk versions based on Lucas, Spielberg, and other "content owners" for no known reason.

    Hopefully, they come out some time in the next year or so...as there is no pattern to why some have come out ("Close Encounters" for example) and others have not.
     
  16. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Disney does weird things like limited production runs etcetera. I suspect there are similar types of issues with these movies.
     
  17. Alan Gordon

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    Personally, I recommend trying several different sites to get a feel for the people that review the titles. The reason for that is that I've read some reviews where the people gave good reviews for "crappy" quality releases, and gave the thumbs down to some GREAT releases. Quite a few of those reviews have come from HighDefDigest, and I honestly don't even bother to read their reviews anymore.

    I prefer Blu-ray.com's reviews myself, but I try to read a few other sites as well... often to get a general consensus, though I rarely let a review sway me as I stopped buying DVD some time ago.

    ~Alan
     
  18. Alan Gordon

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    It took years for the "Star Wars" movies to come out on DVD. One of the reasons why this is, is because George Lucas likes to wait until there is a considerable user base before releasing his movies.

    "Star Wars" will come out on Blu-ray, but don't expect them for a few years... and it wouldn't surprise me if he "tests" the water with the prequel trilogy first.

    ~Alan
     
  19. ShawnL25

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    While we are at it does anyone know if the PS3 will be updated soon to allow me to pass an undecoded signal via bitstream over HDMI.

    I resently set up my buddy's reciever and he has the Samsung 2550. I was able to send it bitsream and let the AVR decode it as Dolby True or DTS MA.

    With the PS3 I have to send it PCM and the onscreen display just says multichannel PCM. While I know the uncompressed audio is encoded on the PS3 before it's sent out I would like my AVR to do the work.
     
  20. Alan Gordon

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    There are some "known" reasons.

    As for "Star Wars", read my earlier reply about George Lucas.

    As for "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind", it was the 30th Anniversary, and Sony was going to release a 30th Anniversary DVD set. Spielberg is a "fan" of the Blu-ray format and allowed Sony, one of the primary backers of Blu-ray to release the title. There may have been more details, but I don't remember all of them.

    Speaking of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, Spielberg was one of the main reasons why Indy IV was released last year. Lucas wanted to wait until Blu-ray adoption grows, but Spielberg wanted to go ahead and release it. Not to mention the fact that Spielberg was supposedly for releasing the first three as well, but Lucas was against it. I guess they compromised.

    A lot of big movies being released this coming year, like the LOTR movies, "Gone With The Wind" and other classics, and rumor has it, the "Alien" movies. I wouldn't be surprised to see at least ONE Spielberg movie next year, but I'd be surprised if it came before the 3Q. Most of his movies will be similar to how they were released on DVD... a trickle at first.

    ~Alan
     

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