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"Don't touch my junk!"

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Obviously there are lines that could be crossed... and maybe some who believe those lines are already crossed.

    IF the airport security TRULY crossed a line, then people would stop flying... then the practice would stop... and we'd be back to "normal" again. Clearly that line has not yet been crossed.

    At many schools, kids have to go through metal detectors. Where is that outrage? You know some of those kids get patted down, and perhaps some searched... but I'm not seeing outrage at that and school is something that by-law your kids have to attend daily in most states.

    But I am seeing outrage at airports where people choose to fly... I know someone will argue that the school security measures aren't as bad as the airport ones... but based on the conversation here, several complaints would apply equally well in both situations.
     
  2. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    People often confuse a lack of freedom for a lack of convenience. It happens.
     
  3. Draconis

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  4. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    It really doesn't matter if it is TSA or one of the other available groups. The guidelines remain the same.
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Private security is required to do the same touchy feely probing of passenger's private parts as the TSA? Got a source for that?
     
  6. fluffybear

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    One would think that the policy would have to be across the board wether TSA or a private firm is in charge of security. Without an across the board policy, are we not opening ourselves to large holes for terrorists to exploit?
     
  7. The Merg

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    As I understood it, airports could use their own security as long as they complied to the same guidelines that TSA uses. So, private security would have to perform patdowns/searches for the same reasons that TSA does. Now it could all come down to training on how those patdowns/searches are done though.

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  8. Nick

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    Seriously, are you calling the TSA body inspectors, terrorists? :lol:

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  9. Hoosier205

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    Yes they are...if the passenger refuses other forms of screening...as the passenger in this case did. You know...the passenger who brought this entire ordeal on themselves.

     
  10. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    This might just encourage some folks to make a career change. :D
     
  11. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    Dear Penthouse,

    "Her gloved hands touched my breasts...went between them. Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin... then put her hands up on outside of slacks, and patted my genitals.”

    “I was shaking and crying when I left that room”
     
  12. The Merg

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    Ummm, that is the proper way to perform a search on a woman. You use the back of the hand in between the breasts and sweep around the bottom of the breast. A male will typically use the butt of an expandable baton or flashlight for checking this area so there is no hand to breast contact. You can also grab the bra in the center and pull it away from the person's chest, although a male will not perform that action.

    For the waistband, you are going to run your hand around the inside of the waistband. Sometimes when you grab the pants you do also grab the underwear accidentally. A male would use the back of their hand on the back side and front of a woman's pants at the buttocks and lap area, but a female will use the front of her hands. And a groin sweep, well, it's a groin sweep. People hide things there so it needs to checked.

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  13. Lee L

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    Well, certainly the people who run the Sanford Orlando airport think there is some advantage to changing and I bet they would not do it without some idea of an improvement. Looks like several other airports are looing into it as well, mostly due to the belief that some TSA agents are acting like jerks and being generally unprofessional and that private contractors might be better.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...aKlFFQ?docId=c5e727bff09845e393608ea000909811
     
  14. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    Yes because they are in the business of making money. Telling the public that they have tossed the TSA out improves their image for the time being. Never mind that it won't actually change much beyond that.
     
  15. djlong

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    They go nowhere. Except for less than a handful of one-time cruises that are for repositioning ships for seasonal bases, cruises return to their ports or origin. Cruises are for vacationing - not traveling.
     
  16. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    That's exactly. it. There is more accountability with a private contractor. It's much easier to give a contractor the boot rather than government employees. Especially minorty females. It's almost impossible to fire them from government positions.
     
  17. djlong

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    In theory, authorities are bound by the same laws as the rest of us. In practice, this means that the state patrolman can't speed down the highway - he has to obey the speed limit unless his lights and/or siren are on.

    The TSA should be bound by the same laws as the rest of us. Unless the machine beeps, they have no right to perform what would be considered a sexual assault on someone, just because they are wearing a badge. Police don't get to frisk anyone at any time on the street. There has to be this thing called *probable cause*.
     
  18. The Merg

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    Actually, it's reasonable suspicion. That's all that's needed for a stop and frisk.

    Probable cause is what is needed to make an arrest.

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  19. armophob

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    Just copy and paste man, except for the penthouse reference of course.:lol:
     
  20. The Merg

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    I know... Just commenting on that idiotic woman. I saw the news report for that.

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