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"Don't touch my junk!"

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    or unreported, not everyone complains publicly when they feel violated or abused
     
  2. Nick

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Club

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    Ummm, there is NO proper way to search a person, male or female, unless they are under arrest. Making a US citizen undergo a highly invasive physical (and psychological) assault and molestation on their body (and mind) a pre-condition of flying is just plain wrong.

    Just as bad, if, during the security check, you are unable to tolerate the forced molestation and want (or need) to opt out, you are subject to a $10,000 fine and/or prison time? What the hell is that? What's next... they just shoot you?

    Just how much of your freedom are you willing to surrender in your quest for total security? There is no such thing, you know. That many of you have accepted this onerous process as acceptable as the 'new normal' is profoundly disappointing to me to the point of being repugnant.

    We have reached the tipping point...we have become sheep being led to the slaughter of our civil and God-given rights as Americans.

    The terrorists have won. The fat lady has sung. It's over.
     
  3. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    Yep, it would be almost impossible to un-ring this bell. Word of our hysterical behavior has circled the globe and they are RAODFLTAO "Rolling Around On Dirt Floor Laughing Their Asses Off" in their caves.
     
  4. Hoosier205

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    Yes there is when the person being searched has voluntarily given their consent. You can fight that battle if you wish, but you won't have much to stand on. Write to Ron Paul. That failure will surely support your cause.
     
  5. Nick

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    Voluntarily? :confused:

    Really...
     
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Two issues of people hiding explosives on their person over the past few years and how many million without?

    Were either of those issues of hidden explosives detected by enhanced TNA security? Nope.

    If we're going to play a numbers game be fair and look at the number of passengers searched compared to the number of passengers caught. If it is worth doing these enhanced searches on ~770 million people a year to not catch the one who smuggled an explosive it is worth looking at the harm said searches are causing to the victims of overzealous and callouse security staff.
     
  7. armophob

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    Voluntary is the key word. You cannot fly without giving consent. So you voluntarily check your dignity if you want to enjoy the privilege of airline travel at your expense.
    If you do not volunteer your dignity, then you drive or walk.
     
  8. Hoosier205

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    Yes. Voluntarily.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Check me....check me twice....ooooo.... :D
     
  10. longrider

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    That is what i have a big problem with from a freedom standpoint. While I dont agree with the groping searches, I can accept that if you dont do it you can't fly. However saying if you want to refuse it and not fly you then get a big fine is inherently wrong.

    On a personal note, I used to enjoy flying but that is completely gone now. Thankfully I am not a road warrior and I only fly when I absolutely have to. As long as I have the time i will drive 1000 miles rather than fly.
     
  11. SayWhat?

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    Like I said before, if people stopped flying for a few days, the airlines would deal with the TSA and the problem would be solved. Airlines aren't going to lose millions of dollars daily for more than a week or so before something changes,.
     
  12. Nick

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    Disgusting!

    Where is Whoopi Goldberg when we need her???
     
  13. James Long

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    Just replace the flag in the background with a Swastika and the picture would look normal.


    Unfortunately the TSA can't assume everyone in a habit is a nun (see Sally Field in Cannonball), so they have to treat everyone as a terrorist. :(
     
  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Forgive me....but after flying over 2 million miles to all 50 states, Europe and Asia over the past 20+ years....this is such a no-big-deal its not funny.

    Most of those folks who have a problem with the whole thing (and by the way, just get in the darn full-body scanner already...) seem to be what we affectionately refer to in line as "amateurs" - folks who fly once a year or less and almost anything is considered new or a pain in the butt to them.

    I was on 6 flights alone last week, and not once did I have to do either a full body scan or pat-down. The previous week, I did one scan. I had the pat down done maybe 2 months ago. None were anything resembling a big deal.

    People need to get over it.
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    :lol: It took us longer to reach Godwin's law territory, but it happened. :lol:
     
  16. James Long

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    The TSA would like to change that to every person every flight.
     
  17. Nick

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    Godwin's Law:

    "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of
    a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

     
  18. hdtvfan0001

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    I say TSA...go for it.

    The only impact is slower and longer lines. I give that about 3 days...and they'll rethink it again based on the havoc the lines create.
     

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