1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome to the new DBSTalk community platform. We have recently migrated to a community platform called Xenfono and hope you will find this change to your liking. There are some differences, but for the most part, if you just post and read, that will all be the same. If you have questions, please post them in the Forum Support area. Thanks!

Driverless Vehicles

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Drucifer, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Jan 4, 2014 #1 of 74
    Drucifer

    Drucifer New Member

    9,371
    239
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    New Law Allows Driverless Cars on Michigan Roads

    SOURCE

    They're on Cali roads.

    Now when will the Tri-States allow it?
     
  2. Jan 4, 2014 #2 of 74
    Nick

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Gold Club

    21,810
    180
    Apr 23, 2002
    The...
    Which, or what is Tri-States?
     
  3. Jan 4, 2014 #3 of 74
    PCampbell

    PCampbell Icon

    1,639
    98
    Nov 18, 2006
    People texting are driverless cars.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2014 #4 of 74
    Drucifer

    Drucifer New Member

    9,371
    239
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    NY,NJ,CT AKA the Greater NYC Metropolitan area.
     
  5. Jan 5, 2014 #5 of 74
    yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    2,692
    154
    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    The thing about driving I like the most is the feeling of being in control. I am not too sure that I would feel good barreling down some highway at 65.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2014 #6 of 74
    peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,353
    904
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    driving is the most tedious task I can find. only if the streets were empty....


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  7. Jan 5, 2014 #7 of 74
    yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    2,692
    154
    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    Different stokes for different folk. :)
     
  8. Jan 5, 2014 #8 of 74
    peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,353
    904
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    not arguing with that. what makes driving so stressful are the other drivers, driving the car itself is not that bad....


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  9. Jan 5, 2014 #9 of 74
    yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    2,692
    154
    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    Get you. For me I have never found in stressful.
     
  10. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    44,862
    860
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    I understand. I don't like riding with anyone. While I like technology and see this as a step toward "the car of the future" I don't want to ride ... I want to drive!
     
  11. phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    14,884
    281
    Jan 18, 2007
    Northern...
    As I've said many times, imagine an alien species observing humans traveling in opposite directions a few feet apart in little wheeled pods on the ground at 60 mph, the only thing separating them is a painted line. Then you discover that they kill and maim each other by the tens of thousands per year. And they load their mates and offspring in these pods regularly. And they explain that they feel like they have some control and are in charge.

    You then learn that few of them understand the laws of physics and think "OK, that explains this foolishness." Then you leave to look for truly intelligent species.
     
  12. yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    2,692
    154
    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    I hate it when people make intelligent arguments. :)
     
  13. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    44,862
    860
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    OK, insults aside have you got a better solution?

    2.4926 trillion vehicle miles driven last year (2013) in the US. There are bound to be a few accidents and fatalities. My first question of the rude aliens would be "and you flew across the galaxy in THAT?"

    About one death per 100 million miles in 2009 (per the census bureau). Zero would be better but don't make it sound like driving is suicidal. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Leapin' Lizard Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,432
    358
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Here's a possibly dumb question...

    If you are in an accident with a driverless car... who is at fault?

    And... IF the driverless car is determined to be at fault, who gets the insurance points since there was no driver?
     
  15. PCampbell

    PCampbell Icon

    1,639
    98
    Nov 18, 2006
    Here in Michigan a person must be at the wheel so he or she would get the points.
     
  16. Drucifer

    Drucifer New Member

    9,371
    239
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    Very true.

    As I have aged, I have notice my reaction time has slowed some. Making other drivers mistakes even more dangerous for me. I would really appreciate a vehicle that can react quicker then I can.
     
  17. phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    14,884
    281
    Jan 18, 2007
    Northern...
    Horses weren't exactly safe.

    But the side benefits of the tech associated with driverless car development will be increased safety. Obviously many (most?) people on their sixth iPhone generally aren't on their second generation of automatic braking automobiles or even their first. Maybe if it came out as iBrakes humans would fret more about auto safety than they do now?

    Anyway, I do point out the dangers of auto use because I watch people who worry themselves silly that some pedophile will harm their kid then regularly proceed to strap their kid into an auto they will drive seemingly without concern, I guess because they think they have it all under control. They don't, ever. The fact is that automobile accidents kill more children over the age of 4 than any other cause.

    Is it suicidal? No. But after you respond to accidents for a few years, it's depressing to realize how many folks think they had it under control just before....

    A Google driverless car was involved in an accident, though the press could never figure who was driving. I believe when general use comes about the law will require someone to be in the driver's seat and they will be the responsible parties.
     
  18. Drucifer

    Drucifer New Member

    9,371
    239
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    If we were a TV Network in the Cosmos, we would be the Comedy Channel.
     
  19. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,353
    904
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    there are many warehouses today with driverless "cars" these vehicles that pick and drop merchandise have never had an accident (at least reported and that I am aware). in order for these "program" to succeed, every single car must be "driverless" and when this happen, accidents will be reduced to 0


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  20. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    44,862
    860
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    The more controlled the environment the better the success rate.

    I just cleared 12 inches of snow out of my driveway so I can get to the street in the morning. Hopefully the county will plow the street before morning but if they don't I may be able to make it to the next big road which will be plowed. If not by morning I hope they at least get my street plowed one lane before I get home, It is harder to get home than get out.

    I wonder how the Google car handles snow? The cues needed to maintain lane control are not always evident in the snow.

    Answering my own question:
    1) The cars have trouble detecting lane markers when there is snow on the road.

    2) They can get lost when they come to changes in the road that aren’t on the map.

    3) They have trouble understanding when traffic cops direct traffic with hand signals.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2013/03/03/have-googles-self-driving-cars-hit-a-technological-roadblock/
    Rebuilding every road in the nation to have good lane markers will be expensive (how about the California counties where they are not even bothering to maintain the pavement).

    When your GPS errors and tells you to turn left into a river on onto a railroad track the human can catch it. Some day a Google car will make that fatal mistake.

    And when going through a construction zone with a worker flagging traffic telling the difference between an octagon stop sign and an octagon slow sign is a challenge. Not to mention hand signals and flags.
     
    2 people like this.

Share This Page