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DTV: Legacy SD Receivers To Be Obsolete

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by BrucePadgett, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. HarleyD

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    Welcome to dbstalk, Lynn. I think you'll find it an interesting discussion and valuable resource on all things DirecTV.

    I had wondered also about whether or not DirecTV might offer some sort of tradeoff or partial credit if we choose to upgrade the obsolete SD receivers to some sort of HD equipment.

    I have three SD receivers due to be obsolete by the end of the year. Since I am moving toward a Whole Home DVR installation a few pieces at a time I would be interested in replacing these obsolete units with HD client boxes that would work with WHDVR. I'm waiting until they tell me the life of these boxes is over before I broach the issue with DirecTV.
     
  2. P Smith

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    The old/legacy DTV receivers has some value - after reprogramming they could be used in Latin America, where DTV has growing business.
     
  3. alnielsen

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    The difference being these receivers are almost exclusively owned by the client. It's not D*'s property to redistribute.
     
  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    They could follow dish - give $10 credit to your subscription for each returned IRD. Still ripoff ...
     
  5. ThomasM

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    They are dropping the old style program guide. In 2004 they introduced the "advanced program guide". The old guide only kept 2 hours of programming in the receiver. If you wanted more, you had to wait a few seconds while "retrieving program guide" appeared onscreen. In total, you could get up to 38 hours of programming (six 6-hour blocks plus the two hours the receiver always had in it's memory)

    The "advanced program guide" sends out about four hours of programming via a high-speed data stream and up to the next 14 days via a slow speed data stream. Different receivers store different amounts of this data in memory from simple SD boxes (3 days) to some older RCA units (5 days) to the DVR'S which store the data on a hard drive (the full 14 days).

    The abbreviated data is always viewable since that is what the receiver is getting while you see "receiving satellite data" onscreen after a receiver restart. DVR's keep the full 14 days of data stored in a "cache" file on the hard drive so you get all of the data when you restart these receivers.

    To clear this cache (if it seems to be corrupted or for your own curiosity), restart your DVR TWICE within 30 minutes and you will see the 4 hours of high speed data when the receiver restarts and must wait up to 48 hours for all the data to be received.
     
  6. ThomasM

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    I'm eagerly awaiting the email. I still have my ORIGINAL Hughes box on my account which I first activated in 2000. It is used strictly for listening to DMX (Sonic Tap) since it continuously displays the song data (no irritating "screen saver")
     
  7. ThomasM

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    You bet. I have an RCA which was one of the FIRST receivers with the APG. It stores 5 days of programming data but doesn't have an RID. It is model DRD450RGA.

    But if DirecTV is offering a FREE upgrade with NO contract extension... :D

    I wonder if this fantastic upgrade will be OWNED or LEASED???
     
  8. Shades228

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  9. mrdbdigital

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    I have a couple of Philips DSR6000's which I know do not have RID numbers. Will they be impacted by this?

    Dave
     
  10. Dude111

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    Well for me,I DONT WANT ONE OF THIER NEW PIECE OF GARBAGE BOXS THATS WHY!!!!!

    I have a 2nd gen plain SD reciever i got many years ago,NO HD,NO DVR,none of that garbage.... AND I DONT WANT IT!!!

    In my opinion i have the BEST box i could ever have as far as response,etc.......


    I will keep it as long as I can!!! (Less cancel service after 12 years)
     
  11. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    You have been ranting for hours...Valium is cheap, and readily available from your nearby physician. Maybe it would make you feel less...stressed?
     
  12. Jacob Braun

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    Well you can keep it forever! You won't be able to watch anything on it in a few months, but it's yours!
    A free D12 awaits you if you ever decide to call.
     
  13. Shades228

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    I'll double check for you but it's a TiVo so it should be fine due to TiVo's guide data.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    And if you take the D12 you still won't have those. I don't think DirecTV even writes the software for them (handled by NDS.)
     
  15. HoTat2

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    TIVO's guide data is carried in the satellite stream? :confused:
     
  16. kevinturcotte

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    Always has been for the DirecTivos.
     
  17. HoTat2

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    I always thought the DTIVOs had to be designed to function with DIRECTV's MPT or APG like all other receivers. Not have a separate guide stream from TIVO's servers like the one which services their STB and CATV DVRs over the phone or internet also sent over the satellite.
     

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